Former President Donald Trump’s defense team asked the judge overseeing the classified documents case in Florida to postpone the trial, according to a filing late Monday night, saying there is “no reason for any expedited trial.”
This should be a surprise to nobody. He was expected to try this regardless of the circumstances.
The question is whether or not Cannon will grant the request. If she does, she’s going to cement her career as being nothing more than a partisan hack bought and paid for by Trump. If she doesn’t, he’s going to try to sabotage the trial by turning the MAGA Hate Machine in her direction and let the attacks fly.
And what does cementing her career as a trump hack do to her? If it’s nothing, then it’s all by design
At least we’ll know right out of the gate if she’s going to at least give the appearance of impartiality by denying the request, or if she’s not even going to bother trying to be impartial and just all but tell us to sit back and wait for the eventual acquittal.
Right, but at some point (in terms of public opinion here), filing charges in NJ because the FL charges didn’t work out is going to play right into Trump’s playbook of being painted as a victim of political persecution, which will galvanize support (and fundraising) from his base and increase the chances of a MAGA nut getting on the jury and pushing for jury nullification because “it’s all a witch hunt”.
Yes, there are tons of legitimate reasons for this to happen (with, you know, the whole Trump committing multiple crimes in multiple states and all that), but one thing I learned in college is that when it comes to public opinion, if you have to explain your position in that level of detail, you already lost the argument. While this wouldn’t matter 99.999999% of the time, it matters in this case because it could impact his prosecution.
I don’t disagree with your predictions, but the whole point is that public opinion won’t matter if the judge is not a hack. That is to say, who cares if Trump says it’s a witch hunt if he’s charged again in NJ? He’s already saying that.
It’s one thing to say “It’s all a witch hunt”. We’ve been hearing that for years.
But it’s a completely different thing to say “It’s all a witch hunt! See what Jack Smith is doing?” when he can point to Smith filing cases in NJ because his FL case is at risk. And then you have the upcoming GA case. Is this all legitimate? Absolutely. But to someone who doesn’t follow this stuff significantly? It does give off the appearance that the government is just trying to throw whatever they can at as many walls as possible just to see what sticks. Especially if he follows this up with charges in DC stemming from the J6 investigation.
Doing this accomplishes two things: One is that it’s going to galvanize his base and increase his support, which could lead to greater turnout at the polls. The other is that it increases his chances that one of his supporters will end up on one of the juries and push for jury nullification “to counter the government’s witch hunt”.
This is why I say that this is the .00000001% of time where it matters.
I honestly don’t know what you’re arguing here. Are you saying the justice department should bow to public pressure and not attempt to hold Trump accountable for his actions?
I’m saying that the way that the fact that he is filing multiple charges in multiple states is going to give off the impression that “it’s all a witch hunt”. It may be the only way he can do it (because of the crimes being committed in multiple states, etc.), and I’m not saying he’s wrong for doing it. But I am saying that it’s going to have the side effect of playing right into Trump’s hands in a way that is likely to help him in the general election (by incentivizing more of his supporters to vote and send him money), and possibly in at least one of his upcoming trials as well.
It is more than just that - I was reading something earlier that talked about the scheduling of trials in general: State and local trials typically defer to federal trials when there is a conflict. If she choses to delay, the states (NY, possibly GA) will step in and run their trials, which could delay things on the federal calendar. Federal judges do not defer to the states - if she did so, she’d piss off every judge on the federal bench - not just the left leaning ones.
if she did so, she’d piss off every judge on the federal bench - not just the left leaning ones.
This hasn’t stopped her before. Remember that the last time she got slapped down, the members of the panel were all GOP. She cares about serving Trump. Pissing off the party in the process is just a cost of doing business.
This should be a surprise to nobody. He was expected to try this regardless of the circumstances.
The question is whether or not Cannon will grant the request. If she does, she’s going to cement her career as being nothing more than a partisan hack bought and paid for by Trump. If she doesn’t, he’s going to try to sabotage the trial by turning the MAGA Hate Machine in her direction and let the attacks fly.
Either way, there’s a political shitstorm coming.
And what does cementing her career as a trump hack do to her? If it’s nothing, then it’s all by design
For real, like, has she not already done enough to cement her as a partisan hack? Why would this one more thing make anything different?
At least we’ll know right out of the gate if she’s going to at least give the appearance of impartiality by denying the request, or if she’s not even going to bother trying to be impartial and just all but tell us to sit back and wait for the eventual acquittal.
Reportedly, Jack Smith has more charges he can bring against Trump in New Jersey if Cannon decides she’s a puppet for Trump.
Right, but at some point (in terms of public opinion here), filing charges in NJ because the FL charges didn’t work out is going to play right into Trump’s playbook of being painted as a victim of political persecution, which will galvanize support (and fundraising) from his base and increase the chances of a MAGA nut getting on the jury and pushing for jury nullification because “it’s all a witch hunt”.
Yes, there are tons of legitimate reasons for this to happen (with, you know, the whole Trump committing multiple crimes in multiple states and all that), but one thing I learned in college is that when it comes to public opinion, if you have to explain your position in that level of detail, you already lost the argument. While this wouldn’t matter 99.999999% of the time, it matters in this case because it could impact his prosecution.
I don’t disagree with your predictions, but the whole point is that public opinion won’t matter if the judge is not a hack. That is to say, who cares if Trump says it’s a witch hunt if he’s charged again in NJ? He’s already saying that.
It’s one thing to say “It’s all a witch hunt”. We’ve been hearing that for years.
But it’s a completely different thing to say “It’s all a witch hunt! See what Jack Smith is doing?” when he can point to Smith filing cases in NJ because his FL case is at risk. And then you have the upcoming GA case. Is this all legitimate? Absolutely. But to someone who doesn’t follow this stuff significantly? It does give off the appearance that the government is just trying to throw whatever they can at as many walls as possible just to see what sticks. Especially if he follows this up with charges in DC stemming from the J6 investigation.
Doing this accomplishes two things: One is that it’s going to galvanize his base and increase his support, which could lead to greater turnout at the polls. The other is that it increases his chances that one of his supporters will end up on one of the juries and push for jury nullification “to counter the government’s witch hunt”.
This is why I say that this is the .00000001% of time where it matters.
I honestly don’t know what you’re arguing here. Are you saying the justice department should bow to public pressure and not attempt to hold Trump accountable for his actions?
I’m saying that the way that the fact that he is filing multiple charges in multiple states is going to give off the impression that “it’s all a witch hunt”. It may be the only way he can do it (because of the crimes being committed in multiple states, etc.), and I’m not saying he’s wrong for doing it. But I am saying that it’s going to have the side effect of playing right into Trump’s hands in a way that is likely to help him in the general election (by incentivizing more of his supporters to vote and send him money), and possibly in at least one of his upcoming trials as well.
It is more than just that - I was reading something earlier that talked about the scheduling of trials in general: State and local trials typically defer to federal trials when there is a conflict. If she choses to delay, the states (NY, possibly GA) will step in and run their trials, which could delay things on the federal calendar. Federal judges do not defer to the states - if she did so, she’d piss off every judge on the federal bench - not just the left leaning ones.
This hasn’t stopped her before. Remember that the last time she got slapped down, the members of the panel were all GOP. She cares about serving Trump. Pissing off the party in the process is just a cost of doing business.