Let people enjoy things.
not my say to decide what should or should not be enjoyed, but IPA are the worst of beers and that is a fact
We have a saying in the brewing community, “don’t yuck someone else’s yum.” Everyone has different tastes. Let them enjoy it even if you don’t. It’s not hurting anyone. And that goes beyond beer
The problem with IPA’s is not that people enjoy them or that brewers brew them and pubs stock them. The problem is that there’s so many of them, all purporting to be slightly different, that it’s pushing out other kinds of beer. The amount of times I have walked into a pub and there’s somewhere between three and seven IPA’s and I ask if they’ve got any stouts and the answer is, “We’ve got Guinness.”
Part of that is seasonal. You’re not going to get a stout in the summer, just like you’re not going to get an Oktoberfest in the spring or a Shandy in the winter. Like you said about IPAs, there are so many variations, they’ve become a year round beer. Other year round beers are things like lagers and ales. Comparing a seasonal style to a year round beer isn’t a fair comparison
If you can’t find a stout on tap in the winter, you’re going to the wrong breweries
I definitely drink Stouts year round.
Personally my issue with IPAs is that so many of them are generic IPA that tastes the same as 75 percent of the other IPAs and everybody that successfully brewed an IPA things they need to open a brewery with a bunch of IPAs.
When I go to a brewery and the option is 7 different variations of IPA and a guest beer, I usually know that the master brewer doesn’t know much else about beer.
Just because you drink them year round, doesnt mean most people do. They dont brew them in the summer because they cant sell them enough to make it profitable.
You definitely have a point there about only having ipas at a brewery. IPA is the easiest beer to make, and the easiest beer to hide any imperfections. 1 of our 2 main breweries in town basically only does IPAs. Took them like 5 years until they did something that actually was good and not an IPA
Might have been a wording mistake but I was replying to the idea that I wouldn’t do it.
And there are breweries in my area that seem then year round.
I live in the UK. My experience has been that the selection of beers isn’t that seasonal. Sure there will be guest beers in some pubs/chains but for example I can go to a Sam Smith’s pub and they have four stouts year round plus a pretty good porter. Just a lot of people don’t like to go to Sam Smith’s pubs because the owner has… feelings about one thing and another.
So if I’m meeting friends usually there’s something nearby that we’re planning to do and in a great number of pubs the choice is Guinness or nothing.
Stouts are expensive to brew and take a long time, which is why you don’t see breweries make more of them. Also, they tend to brew what sells.
Stouts don’t necessarily take longer than an IPA to brew unless it’s barrel aged but that’s not a necessity. They both use ale yeast and ferment at the same temperature.
Right but the higher concentration of complex sugars means you need longer to get to the desired attenuation, making longer secondary fermentation almost part of the style. Beyond that, most stout gets bottle or keg conditioned for several more weeks, as this really aids in development of the desired complexity. I used to work at a brewery and did BJCP training and “young” stouts tend to have a very obvious flavor profile most people don’t like. With other ales, we would turn around a batch from grain to cans to sales in about three weeks, but the stouts were more like a 2 month process at minimum. Our best selling gingerbread stout basically took all year to brew. Most breweries treat stouts like the special occasion they are because doing so produces something incredible, and rushing it produces something mediocre.
Complex sugars are simply not going to be metabolized by yeast, which is why many dark beers are cloying? Not all dark beers (IE schwartzbier) are sweet because of better conversion in malting and mashing (and water chemistry)?
IPAs can have very quick turn around though. A local place only uses kveik…
but IPA are the worst of beers and that is a fact
Measured by whom?
Personal preference is now fact, apparently.
They are one of the most popular, and most diversely flavorful, styles. They’re not the “worst” by any metric but your narrow opinion.
IPAs are fine it’s the chase for the hoppiest thing that is a waste. As Garret Oliver once said it’s like chefs trying to make the saltiest soup.
yap, I like the analogy
It was the best way to describe people’s issues with them in 2008
Lol no one is making you drink IPAs. This take is really terrible and immature.
Farmhouse ales?
Sours?
Milkshake-style beers (lactose back-sweetened)?
I know people who love them, but I can’t for the life of me understand the semi recent popularity of sours. I’ve tried several and all I taste is old sock
Sour beers are a thing you will try the first time and hate initially, then a few days later you will think that sour was pretty good. This also assumes you get a good sour, and not something that’s basically vinegar, which is harder than is should be.
Definitely not my experience, I tried several a while back from a few local breweries that made stuff I loved in the past and just did not care for anything about the flavor or taste, but I don’t have to drink them so enjoy. I’ll stick to the ESBs, pilsners, and IPAs
I’m not a brewer, but I’m assuming that the process is slightly different. Try a sour from a company that’s known for making sours. There are a lot of very delicious ones out there.
Appreciate the advice, but I’ve been through many that were acclaimed by folks that love sours, just not to my pallet. Everyone else go nuts but I’m not interested, and there’s plenty of other beer out there I do like so I’m not missing out
Hear hear. The ayes have it. IPA’s are now banned.
Idk. Even if they’re way, way overdone, Bud Light exists and is some kind of pilsner-type thing.
Daaamn 70 downvotes, I guess people are really attached to their IPAs
I enjoy arguing about beer. Let ME enjoy things.
I enjoy arguing with people who enjoy arguing about beer. Checkmate.
That’s not exclusive to my statement.
I’m enjoying this.
I enjoy people AND arguing.
What if they enjoy racism :(
Let people enjoy things, unless that thing is not letting people enjoy things.
I mean, it doesn’t apply to everything.
Be tolerant of all things expect intolerance
When did this meme stop making fun of the shouty guy? I don’t like the change.
Gatekeepers got tired of being (rightly) made fun of, so they made a new meme format that makes them seem justified
I mean if people would actually admit that new games have been declining in quality and stop pouring money into these lower quality games we’d still have high quality games on the regular.
But no everyone shit their pants when planned dlcs became the norm and jizzed in their pants so hard gaming corporations realized they can peddle half assed games and people will still shell out whatever price they demand
Um, I think you’re in the wrong thread - we’re talking about beer…
I agree with you though, it’s just not relavent lol
Yeah no Idk how tf I did that but my brain immediately replaced this comic with the one about Starfield
Omega based
I love the change. I really think that “even if he might be right fuck that guy and how he approaches this” is a great evolution of the meme
It has literally become the shouty guy itself.
Hey IPAs are all year round. Pumpkin spice beer is seasonal.
Agreed, why would anyone think IPAs are seasonal?
I’m guessing the maker doesn’t like beer so never really got into it enough to know that
Dude the two best kinds of beer are free and cold. Anything beyond that is luxury
Moral of the story: Don’t let others tell you what to like or dislike. If you think IPAs are crap then don’t do it because someone on the internet told you so.
I love how you can tell this was edited by the first dude to pat themself on the back for disliking something benign, and then OP’s comments prove that’s the case
yep
Meh, drink what you like…
I keep seeing stuff about IPAs and I feel like I’m missing something. Some people don’t like it, just like some people don’t like licorice, and that’s fine. But why do some people think that those who drink IPAs aren’t actually enjoying it? Why would they drink it, then?
I don’t understand why people seem to think it is a fall seasonal beer.
I don’t have a problem with their existence, just dislike going to bars that serve nothing but IPAs…
That’s fair, but even the breweries near me who are known for their IPAs will all have something other than IPAs on their menu.
yeah gimme a lambic, stout, saison, pils or witbear, I’m not picky I just don’t like bitter.
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In the Year of Our Lord two-thousand and twenty-three I cannot believe that enjoying IPAs would be considered a sign of adventurous tastes.
Twenty years ago it was, but these days an oyster stout or cactus pear gose or brandy-barrel porter would probably be a better example of flavor adventure.
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I’m not a huge fan of IPAs. I think they’re good but not binge drinking appropriate, so that shaves off a bunch of points.
That’s right. Real men shit infront of homies.
IPAs are for summer, autumn and winter seasons are for bock and stout beers.
Does any of my Europeans enjoy Kronenbourg Blanc?
It’s an okay summer beer, but I definitely prefer an Erdinger weissbier.
I prefer Maisel’s Weisse or Schneider Weisse
Yeah I asked because for some reason it’s super popular but I don’t see the appeal. I much prefer Bavaria or Tuborg or Carlsberg. Haven’t tried that one!
As a Dane, I am deeply honoured that you would prefer a Tuborg or Carlsberg. Though I would advise you to try something better than that discount beer.
Only with a bretzel though.
I enjoy it. Weihenstephaner Weissbier is my favourite though.
It doesn’t taste like beer really. . I drink it quite often though. Not too many good import beers in some asian countries, and that’s they one you can get in most corner stores.
It tastes like Weissbier, which is a type of beer. So it does indeed taste like beer.
I work in a brewery and we get people like that at every event we’re at. A lot of people simply equate lager to beer and everything else is weird or not real beer etc. Fact is weissbier is an older style than the modern lagers and people have been putting in fruit and stuff in beer for at least a thousand years.
Drink your calories!!
Its what novo nordisk wants!
Let the guy know he’s right
