Both host content that are against our content policy and have had issues with users from those sites entering our community crossposting content that violates our content policy. We are discussing defederating other instances as well. There is discussion of lemmit.online being defederated because it pretty much exclusively scrapes reddit content and reposts it, and some content creators have expressed discomfort. If there’s other instances that might be worth considering defederating from, just post and it’ll be added to the current discussion.
and before anyone brings it up, lemmygrad defederated with us.
This isn’t a dictatorship but I ask that you please behave in the comment section and at least try to understand why we are defederating.
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I think defederating instances that post illegal content makes sense, as the admins are responsible for the content on their server.
I think defederating instances that host belligerent users and content makes sense, because it protects those that are targeted by them.
I don’t think defederating instances that post content some people don’t want to see makes sense, a la Lemmit. If the admins want to go that far, you might as well close off the entire fediverse and only host content at your personal approval. Dunno why you’d need a Lemmy instance for that.
If you block the lemmit bot, it’s like blocking the whole instance as it’s the same “user” that does all the posting across all communities on that instance. They really have made it really easy for users to not see lemmit if they don’t want to, and I appreciate that.
It’s not just content though, essentially it’s bots.
The problem with bots isn’t just spam, a social network is defined by the interaction among the community…I think that’s a fair call.
I might be up for having unscripted LLMs on the network, but repost bots are like a weird smell… It’s not that big a deal individually, but it’ll make the community noticably worse
Exploding-heads was defederated by lemmy.world due nazi content afaik, which itself is illegal in many countries, and targets minorities.
Am I missing something?
Edit: or you are talking only about lemmit.online?
I dont like the idea of defederation, but I understand your justifications for these specific instances.
I find the idea of defederating lemmit.online an odd one. Is there a legal reason to do this? Or is it just because you don’t want users of our instance to see reddit content? I don’t quite understand the justification here. (I personally just have their communities blocked)
It was a topic of discussion I wanted community input from as someone brought it up. We are leaning against defederation of it currently.
Hey, I’m new here but I think keeping lemmit federated will help me smooth over the transition from reddit. The majority of all content on Reddit and Lemmy (including this very instance) is already reposted from some other sources anyway and I don’t really see a reason to treat automated reposting differently from manual.
Everything is basically a repost from somewhere anyway.
There are some benefits to doing some Reddit scraping and there are some really shitty ways that it could happen as well.
It would be great if news and or other world events were auto-posted is my first thought. /r/CombatFootage -> /c/CombatFootage would be awesome! Subject matter aside, news needs quick propagation.
Floods of screenshots of Reddit posts would be on the shitty end of this, me thinks.
And nothing of value was lost.
When all this settles down, I’m going to want to see a map of whose federated with who bc I feel like I’ve been seeing daily reports of instances being defederated. Preferably in the style of an actual world map showing instances as countries with their country size related to number of users.
Interesting, though on iOS it’s not as useful for now, as it just fills the screen with a bunch of dots with no way to zoom out or anything, I’ll try taking a look on a desktop at some point, thanks.
It should be noted that this happened like 10 days ago, and due to a major federation glitch this and the other post is just reaching the lemmyverse now. It’s weird, and probably kind of jarring for all this to enter the fediverse at once. I was so confused as to why no one outside of lemmynsfw was talking about our community meta drama, but I realized the federation glitch was why. More so at this point for those on other instances ,it should be noted that one should be mindful of the age of these events. If we do have to lock this due to the comment running its course though, we will but I am hopeful we won’t.
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Glad to hear it. Good choice to ditch both.
This all sounds very reasonable, keep it up.
Thanks for the update, thats great news! ☺️ Been waiting for a while for this defederation to occur.
IDK if this is a hot take, but personally I think the only reason to defederate should be for content policy.
Otherwise, it should be up to individual users to block communities that they don’t want to see.
I don’t think you’re a dictatorship but I have no clue what burgitt, lemmygrad, or exploding-heads are.
burggit - loli/shota
lemmygrad - commies
exploding heads - nazis
slight correction, not commies but tankies specifically
Define Tankie? I’m an authcom and I think I have seen one person use it as a slur correctly…
I get you don’t have to defend the choice and you do you, but people too lazy to read recently using it as a catchall for authcom is absurd.
Edit: in retrospect, don’t even know why I’m arguing this here. I have a lemmygrad acct for commieposting, this account is for hornyposting and they’re only the same thing when pictures of young Castro are involved…
Tankie isn’t explicitly for referring to authcom entirely. It’s specifically meant to describe communists who deny, minimize or discount atrocities and genocides related to previous and current authoritarian communist regimes and that is the context that I use it here for. Regardless, they have us blocked. I felt it was worth mentioning to those who might bring such up in regard to exploding-heads defederation.
authcom
Is auth short for authoritarian or authentic?
Authoritarian, as in I believe a strong state is important to facilitate the transition to communism and safeguard against imperialist and capitalist interest.
Once the dialect is complete and communism has been achieved, that authoritarianism can be revisited, but that’s another conversation.
I know we’re all here to rub our peens but I’m curious about something:
So in this scenario, communism is achieved through authoritarian means. Now it’s time to revisit the authoritarian part. How do you get the auths out peacefully? From my experience with auths they don’t willingly give up power. What do?
Not trying to poke any holes in anyone’s ideology or beliefs. Am just curious :)
That’s the secret - you don’t!
why not just go back to reddit at this point
Off you go then
