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    What you’re describing sounds like you’re being super sensitive to the concept of Hell, and eternal damnation

    The concept of Hell is not hate directed at you, that’s just your brain not being able to handle nuance, abstract thought, the idea of faith or to be introspective enough to take up the mantle of trying to live as best as you can.

    Do you find the threat of prison for committing crimes as hate?

    The concept of sin revolves around the idea that it is impossible to live without sin, for all of us. You’re not at all special.

    This is the kind of self centered “me, me, me” mentality that pulls people to the left, I think. If you think the idea of heaven and hell is ‘hateful’ towards you specifically, then you’re just not grown up enough yet to be a fully functioning adult.

    As far as being Jewish and taking personal offense to the death Jesus …. Well, Jesus was a Jew. Jews don’t believe Jesus was the messiah. That’s fine, Christian’s don’t hate Jews. They share a book of the Bible

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        Do you really want to start throwing around dueling Wikipedia articles? Why can’t you just use your own words?

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          I didn’t think you’d read it. Just like you didn’t read the one about Martin Luther, the founder of protestantism, and his antisemitic text that was picked up by the Nazis and used as a Christian justification of the Holocaust (and the German Christians ate that shit up too).

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            I’m interested in your words, I’m not interested in you telling me to go read someone else’s words as if they are your own.

            If you can’t explain what you’re trying to say, you obviously don’t really understand it well enough. If the author of those Wikipedia articles was here and I was talking to them, that would be one thing.

            But I’m talking to you

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              I’ve given you my words and you’ve pretended I haven’t said them. Like when I told you more than once that many Christians have treated me like this and you claimed it was one individual.

              The first massacre of the Crusades was of Jews.

              The founder of Protestantism wrote an antisemitic screed that has been used for centuries to justify antisemitism.

              The Tsars of Russia would go on pogroms where they would massacre Jews in villages because Russian Orthodox priests told them to.

              I’d back all of this up with evidence, but you’re apparently not interested in evidence. I guess because if you ignore evidence, it’s easy to deny 2000 years of severe antisemitism from Christians across the globe.

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                Do you not think every peoples have been persecuted? Enslaved? Tortured? Been mean to?

                Christians went through this, my ancestors in Europe went through this, these stories exist in every single group on the planet, currently and in the past.

                Pointing out one group soecifically doesn’t mean much when you can’t point to a group that hasn’t gone through similar things throughout history.

                Does that make the human race a hate group? I guess following your logic is done. Again, proving my point that your use of the words rob them of all meaning, when there are obvious hate groups that actually exist.

                You don’t need to make shit up to push your own political agenda. Which is really all that this is.

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                  Are you actually comparing 2000 years of Antisemitism to what Christians went through under Nero? Really?

                  This is like your also saying you’ve been threatened online as if it’s the same as people actually physically harming me for who my ancestors were.

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                    You have absolutely no scope of anything beyond yourself. I can’t keep discussing this with you, you can’t see anything beyond your own personal experience.

                    You’re not equipped for this level of analysis

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      The concept of Hell is not hate directed at you

      Weird, because “you’re going to burn in hell, Jew-boy,” a frequent phrase from my youth, sure sounded directed at me.

      I guess that’s just part of my self-centered “me, me, me” mentality.

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        That’s an issue with an individual, the entire of Christianity is not calling you a Jew-boy or wishing for you to burn in hell.

        Extrapolating that to an entire group of people is the self importance I’m talking about

        Liberals call me all kinds of names, and wish all kinds of violence on me. I’ve been called a ‘biological terrorist’ from mods on reddit for thinking abortion should have some common sense restrictions.

        Does that mean liberals are a hate group? That would be kind of stupid to say, don’t you think? From my anecdotal perspective and going by your thought process, I guess you’d need to agree with me that being liberal means you’re a part of a hate group.

        Can you understand why the way you use these words is wrong? And makes these important words meaningless?

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          No, it’s an issue with dozens of Christians I have encountered my entire life. Why don’t you stop guessing about what I’ve experienced?

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                  Who threatened you? What was the threat? I told you what I was told. I don’t believe “liberals” ever threatened you with anything.

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                    You don’t think I’ve been called a Nazi before, for being a Christian conservative? You don’t think liberals online have threatened my physical safety because of my beliefs?

                    Is it your first day online? You’ve really not seen anything like that?

                    I already posted that liberal reddit mods labeled me a terrorist. You know what a terrorist is, right? You know what people do with terrorists? Or nazis? You ever heard someone say ‘punch a nazi’? Funny that ‘punch a nazi’ is okay to say, but then you label everyone who disagrees with you as a nazi, effectively normalizing doing them physical harm.