Oh shut up, ecars cause less environmental damage than normal cars by far. Yes they require lithium. The lithium required doesn’t get close to the damage of 300k miles worth of gas.
“but power plants burn coal for that electricity”
Not mine. I live in portland and have signed up for 100% renewable power. That’s a your-city problem. You should work on that.
There are many studies that show that replacing all gas cars with electric cars won’t come close to reduction of carbon emissions needed on transportaion fields.
Morever they have all the problems that cars have:
weight inefficent: 1 or 2 tons to move 1 80 kg person
space inefficent: to move one person you need one parking spot at home, one at the job, one at the grocery store…
dangerous: car crashes are the main cause of death among younger ages. Electric cars are heavier, so they are more dangerous.
huge infrastructure needed: to move cars you need highways, which are many times less efficient from a area point if view that any other mide of transportation.
expensive infrastructure to build and mantain. Riad manteunance drll the worst kind of holes in public funding. Electric cars weight more, making this issue worse
Car oriented development is ugly and inefficent. You can’t have both a nice neighborhood and enough car parking space,
Individually owned automobiles and the systems required to support them are wasteful and polluting no matter how you power them.
Electric cars are better, yes. But their popularity is in a large part because they allow us to mostly maintain the status quo.
Do you think they are a sustainable long-term solution? Should we be planning our future around paved roads made almost exclusively for personally owned mostly single-occupant vehicles?
@corm@1993_toyota_camry Sort of? All cars ruin our lives. But gas cars also ruin the planet, where electric are substially better now and will be almost carbon free in 30 years or so. Getting rid of cars in general is very desirable, but getting rid of gas cars is an existential necessity.
Electric cars help pollution like filtered cigarettes help smoker health. It’s a tangible improvement, but on the grand scale of things it’s not a significant improvement.
Oh shut up, ecars cause less environmental damage than normal cars by far. Yes they require lithium. The lithium required doesn’t get close to the damage of 300k miles worth of gas.
“but power plants burn coal for that electricity”
Not mine. I live in portland and have signed up for 100% renewable power. That’s a your-city problem. You should work on that.
There are many studies that show that replacing all gas cars with electric cars won’t come close to reduction of carbon emissions needed on transportaion fields.
Morever they have all the problems that cars have:
Forse sure I’m forgetting quite a lot of things
https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths
US EPA isn’t trustworthy
Argue against the points not the name on it that you don’t like
The points against cars have already been made
A point was made above. You respond to the point. Not that you think the name on a link is full of boogeymen.
You’re literally in the fuck cars comm
I have no idea what you’re even trying to argue
I think you’re arguing points that weren’t made.
Individually owned automobiles and the systems required to support them are wasteful and polluting no matter how you power them.
Electric cars are better, yes. But their popularity is in a large part because they allow us to mostly maintain the status quo.
Do you think they are a sustainable long-term solution? Should we be planning our future around paved roads made almost exclusively for personally owned mostly single-occupant vehicles?
It’s two months later and I’ve done a 180 on this opinion and went from “fuck gas cars” to “fuck all cars”.
The car infrastructure is the shitty part, not so much the cars
@corm @1993_toyota_camry Sort of? All cars ruin our lives. But gas cars also ruin the planet, where electric are substially better now and will be almost carbon free in 30 years or so. Getting rid of cars in general is very desirable, but getting rid of gas cars is an existential necessity.
Still cars 🤷
Electric cars help pollution like filtered cigarettes help smoker health. It’s a tangible improvement, but on the grand scale of things it’s not a significant improvement.