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    Hot tip in the US. In an elevator the floor with the star is the ground floor, regardless of what number is present. This helps clarify any confusion between systems and also is clear for locations that have floors below the ground floor (I’ve most commonly seen this with parking structures)

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    I like ground being 0. That way you have a continuous number line from basement to the top:

    -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5

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    As some one outside both countries 1 2 3 4 5 is where it’s at. The second floor being the first makes no sense.

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    Wait for the old spanish way of doing it. It was abandoned some 40-50 years ago and now we use the same as the british system, but the traditional way of doing it was (bottom to top on this same image): -Bajos -Entresuelo -Principal -First

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    I feel like the British way should always be phrased like “first floor up” or “third floor up” because then you count starting at zero. American way should be phrased as “the first floor” or “the fourth floor.”

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      Why wont you call the first floor first floor? Is ground floor not a floor? Do you also write the day like month/day/year ?

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          Are you ever zeroeth in line? What’s the zeroeth thing you do after waking up in the morning? Do you ever launch an argument with “Zeroeth of all…”? Do you remember your child’s zeroeth words or the time they took their zeroeth step or their zeroeth day of school?

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            The ground floor can’t be the first floor, silly. The ground already existed, before they made the building. You don’t magically go up a floor just because there’s a roof over your head.

            Youre still on the ground, not the first floor above the ground. You guys are wild.

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        I always explained this difference between floor numbers in my country and the US by language: in my language the word used for upper floors only means upper floors, so the 1st floor has to be above the ground floor; while in English they’re all floors, so ground floor is the first floor.

        But I didn’t know the British use the same system as my country (and most of Europe afaik). They could’ve just adopted the same system, despite language, for consistency.

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          That makes sense if you are counting but i prefer a description. If you are in a building with only one floor, you are at the first floor. There is no such thing as the zeroth floor. Because it is the first floor you see and grasp its existence. Its the first thing you see. There is no such thing as the zeroth. Zero implies nonexistence. You cannot use it when you are counting things that exist. Another example: ln a race there is first, second and third. Who would the zeroth refer to? It would have to refer to the last person who has crossed the line without participating in the race. He might have crossed the line before the first but he does not exist in the race so he does not get a reward.

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            The word for floors in my native language is the same as the word for “upstairs”. And it’s the same in a lot of European languages (French étage). And the ground floor has its own separate word. Using French as an example again, the word is parterre, literally meaning “on the ground”. So numbering in Europe goes ground floor, first floor, and so on. Now in English, the word being the same, it can sound confusing, but I assume the British just adopted the same system as the rest of Europe for consistency (although they’re not usually known for doing that).

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          Floor 0 is for those weird buildings built on uneven ground where you enter floor 1 from one side, but floor 0 from another, so it’s neither really underground to warrant negative floor number, nor is it fully on the ground to be positive.

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      True, but also 1. Obergeschoss, 2. Obergeschoss etc.

      In German there was the “ground-floor, the upper-floor and the roof-floor”, which then got separated into "ground floor, upper floor 1, upper floor 2… "

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    This is where it’s a benefit to live in a hilly area. For a building on a hill, it’s quite normal to enter on a different floor depending on whether you’re on an uphill side or downhill side. The main entrance to my son’s dorm is the third floor

    I just assume the Brits are on a hill or slightly tilted

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    Ok so I need some clarification. Building has a crawlspace so there are a few steps up to the front door (please don’t tell me the front has some weird name too), so the entrance level isn’t necessarily the ground level what do you do?

    Option 2 the building is built on uneven ground so the front entrance is ground level but the back entrance is on the floor below the entrance level. How do you number that?

    For simplicity sake front refers to street view side and back is the opposite of front.