• stormesp@lemm.ee
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    10 days ago

    The only thing you are saying is that as there are transphobic people we should be ashamed of helping trans people because transphobic people can use that as a weapon against the working class problems. Im sorry but its the most stupid argument i have seen in a while. I am also working class, i have worked in a fast food restaurant, in a supermarket putting up the avocados you pack up and even picking up dog shit in the streets of my town, and i can tell you no one among 150+ people i worked with was worried about trans people in their working class problems.

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      10 days ago

      No argument was made. I am just responding with a true report from someone who has in fact met working clas speople, being one of them. They are on fact very transphobic,

        • How_do_I_computah@lemmy.world
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          10 days ago

          I feel like this article was shaming people for talking about things that affect working class people like the price of EGGS instead of focusing the conversation on trans people?

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              Ok. Thanks. I think it might have been too clever for useful fucking idiots like me. So the article IS concerned about the price of EGGS?

                • How_do_I_computah@lemmy.world
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                  Thanks for sticking with me. I appreciate how passionate you are about the issues affecting this country.

                  You’re saying that the real issues are the price of EGGS and unaffordable housing, right? And that this article doesn’t care about that? And that people are getting distracted from those issues? What does that make this article?

                  I feel like you’re almost there.

      • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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        “I’m not making an argument. I’m just making a statement that disagrees with your argument and claiming it is true. I will take no further questions because I will not actually try to defend what I’ve said. Other people said it.”

    • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
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      10 days ago

      What you’re saying is right, but there’s an important distinction between actively disparaging or hating on trans people and ignoring the issue.

      The 150+ people have no issue with trans people, exactly as you say, bringing trans people to the forefront is not a problem but also not necessarily a priority or relevant in many of their minds. We can treat them like human beings who deserve protection and treatment like anyone else, but that doesn’t mean putting them on a pedestal at every moment.

      Even advocates take issue when a campaign shoehorns in a token trans person with no real role, it’s very contrived. Progressives have to show that trans inclusivity matters to everyone by connecting it to themes and action that matter to a lot of people, not just tick boxes for each obligatory shout out to a marginalized group.