cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17956865
‘It is time for this war to end,’ Harris tells Netanyahu; ‘I will not be silent’ on Palestinian suffering
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17956865
‘It is time for this war to end,’ Harris tells Netanyahu; ‘I will not be silent’ on Palestinian suffering
Protests themselves often tend to be less popular than the causes they promote. Politically it can make sense to distance from a protest, but still align with a cause itself that is more popular
It’s strange, but ultimately the cause itself is what matters here
She’s lying to both parties. This is hypocrisy, and its discrediting.
Unless you only hear the lie intended for you. Trump is a master at this sort of thing. Maybe Harris is a better politician than we think.
She has no power over that as vice president.
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Oh poor little smol bean kamala! she just can’t do anything at all! It’s not like she’s in the same room as the president and has his ear practically every day. fuck off lol
Ok genocide supporter
This is the equivalent of condemning the police officer who killed George Floyd, but also condemning the George Floyd protests.
Correct.
And the message is also equivalent:
Please murder more people, but do it more silently so we don’t have to pretend to care.
Do you agree with her condemnation of hamas, and support for netanyahu?
She could’ve easily just ignored that protest, because it doesn’t have anything at all to do with her. The only reason this is still getting democratic backing is because of institutional reasons. The rhetoric about, desert rose, shining star of democracy in the middle east, rings hollow when israel has done jack shit as a strategic ally for us for the past 70+ years other than get us wrapped up in multiple conflicts, use us as a weapons manufacturing base to keep the military industrial complex spinning constantly, and train our cops more and more poorly. I don’t think your average democratic voter wants to keep hearing about this shit, I think your average voter wants to ignore this, or has bigger fish to fry in their immediate future, and I don’t think outside of the republican party, which is swamped by doomsday cult evangelical zionists, there are any real hardline make or break “support israel or bust” guys in the democratic voter base. Maybe your super extremist brainbroken libs, but you’re pretty much guaranteed to have their vote anyways, I think. It’s that phantomic undecided voter that they always come back to. Real Hotelling’s law shit, but they’re like, stuck in a fucked up version of the centrism from the 80’s, eternally, only changing the window dressing.
This is purely an institutional concern, and the more this comes up, the less time she has to actually show anything substantive to people. She doesn’t understand how tenuous and ethereal her meme momentum is. People are satisfied with her now because she’s not joe biden, and because she actually has a chance to beat trump, maybe, but after that satisfaction evaporates and the coconut tree and brat memes fall off with their half life of like, probably two weeks or less, she’s gonna need something better than just “vote blue no matter who or else fascism will destroy democracy”, or else it’s just going to fucking beam us with the exact cynicism that’s been the case for like the last two elections. She could even just fucking lie, and say as president she’ll appoint more people to the supreme court, and reverse the reversal of roe v. wade, and even if she doesn’t do that, the issue would probably still be a huge winner for her and help get her elected. But the more time she spends on israel’s fuckups the more she’s going to tread water, and if you’re not moving forwards, you’re sliding backwards.
I’m committed to posting this MLK quote as often as it is relevant:
I’m at the point that I find this quote whenever I need it by opening my profile and sorting by controversial.
i hope you’re right.
i haven’t been able to vote democrat since obama’s 2nd term and kamala seemed like it was possible again until i saw that distancing yesterday.
i also hope that it’s not just lip service; but there’s no way to know.