• kleeon [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    It pisses me off how biggest proponents of “AI” don’t seem to understand how these algorithms even work. No, LLMs literally cannot “solve physics”, whatever that means

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    That does sound impressive, but I’ll be really impressed when the AI model actually can tell me what the hell “solve all of physics” means

    Also, lathe-of-heaven No matter how “good” these models get, Douglas Adams has been too popular on the internet for this to ever succeed. All AIs based on data scraping will be forced to respond ‘42’ to all inquiries of that sort.

  • context [fae/faer, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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    the day is approaching when we can ask an ai model to solve all of physics and it can actually create raving nonsensical rants claiming to be a grand unified theory of everything while denouncing the academic establishment for ignoring its genius, thereby automating the thankless task of giving physics grad students someone to punch down on

  • RiotDoll [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Unless these morons are hiding an honest to god AGI in their back pocket, they’re fully insane, and it’s boring at this point.

    Even if they do, it’s probably a mechanical turk somehow. I don’t believe these dunces capable of making an actual gestalt organism

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    my friend is doing gig work to make chatgpt better at just boring old textbook physics problems, and it’s complete dogshit at it. so uh, sure man. nice brainworms you got there.

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      Didn’t they manage to make it somewhat good at solving certain math competition problems? Regardless it’s a pretty big jump from that to making a breakthrough in physics.

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        maybe certain ones, but it’s generally bad about numbers and mathematical reasoning. he also gets paid to make it fail at math, and it’s arguably worse at basic math than physics.

      • QuillcrestFalconer [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Yeah deepmind had good results with IMO problems, but only geometry problems. They scored almost at the level of gold medalist. That’s only a fraction of IMO problems, though. They did it by combining a formal verification system with a LLM to propose solution paths, and then doing some tree search I think.

        This is one way to improve large AI systems and will probably be incorporated in some way in the future, for example by integrating with a language like lean (for math proofs).

        They will also be improved by combining with tool use like calculators, code interpreters, web search, calendars, etc. This is already starting to happen to some extent.

        LLMs by themselves, at least with current architectures using transformers, are not great at reasoning (counting, arithmetic, symbolic reasoning)

  • Chemical Wonka@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Not all “tech bros” are brainless idiots who like to suck billionaries balls. I’m a fierce advocate of Free Software (as in freedom) , AI hater, I have class consciousness and I’m aware of all the contradictions of capitalism. Contradictory or not I live in Germany

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      its more of the idea tbh meow-hug people thinking that tech will solve everything, despite it not doing that much actually in the labor saving department

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    After humans solve the problem and post it online somewhere to be hoovered by a LLM data scraper, an AI will be able to solve the problems already solved by humans.

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    I have wonder that while I have no doubt that Altman (a finance guy) has little to no actual understanding of “AI”, whether he truly believes these claims. The business relies on securing astronomical amounts of venture capital, practically requiring anywhere between bold embellishment and outright lies. So what’s the repercussions for the latter? As long as you let the real wealth pull out their investment before the bottom falls out and let the retail investors take the hit, probably zero. Even if you don’t do that, at worst you get a short stay in Club Fed like Holmes. On the other hand, I’m still fairly skeptical that any valley finance guy is actually that cognizant.