Looks like we upset a few too many 
residents over at lemmy.ca. I didn’t see a post about this on here, so I thought I’d go ahead and make one.
2 of 4 reasons why are basically just PPB lol, and a third is for calling for executions of landlords 
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that actually sound well-written if you disregard the fact that China is an oppressive regime
Translation; “I don’t know how to counter these arguments, so I’ll just assume its propaganda and move on”
Sounds like some sort of unfalsifiable orthodoxy to me…
The quote
In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the Cold War, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.
– Michael Parenti, Blackshirts And Reds
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Good bot. I am glad to see that our robotic comrades are joining us in the struggle.
a liberal’s thought process consists of inventing a conclusion and selectively interpreting evidence
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50% of posts are well-written arguments? Not a bad ratio, frankly. Good posts, guys.
Like all leftists we’re pathetically vulnerable to engaging in lively debate about economics.
that actually sound well-written if you disregard the fact that China is an oppressive regime
Holeeeeeeeee shit.
they did the thing
Your honor, the evidence that I’m guilty sounds well founded only if you disregard the fact that I’m not guilty.
Arguments I agree with = well-thought-out
Arguments I disagree with = Chinese propaganda
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Kill more Japanese prime ministers
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“Whew, those dastardly communists almost had me there with that instructive and enlightening argument. Thankfully my
hegemonic capitalist programmingFACTS AND LOGIC kicked in and I rejected their arguments immediately without further thought.”How do they not realize what an incredible self-own that shit is lmao
“I have come to a predetermined conclusion and will not change my mind no matter the evidence because China is inherently bad (totally not racist btw)”
Me: Mom I want expertise on China.
Mom: We’ve already got a China expert at home.
The China expert at home:
This really needs to be a site tagline.
they literally have 0 concept of the procession of history, and how the founding of your country less than 200 fucking years ago very much does matter to the present day???
“Moralists don’t really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child’s toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn’t change – not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.”
Having grown up native in Canada, I assure you that this is the view held by the majority.
It gets even better, look at that dudes profile: https://lemmy.ca/u/MapleEngineer
@MapleEngineer
25 years in the federal government in guns and badges, 22 of those in Corrections, then 10 years in hacker hunting and breach detection, now an information security sales engineer. Homestead farmer, amateur welder, equipment operator, electronic designer, 40 years soldering, husband and father.
142 Posts 529 Comments, Joined: June 14th, 2023
Also got a youtube channel
With a fun quote:
garbage cheap chinese breadboard for $1 I use as solder fixture
my good breadboard is $10 it is much better.
Who the fuck is talking about breadboard quality. The whole point is that it’s cheap and temporary. Also the “good breadboard” is 100% also Chinese. Plus he sucks at soldering, he uses too much solder so all the joints are balling up. It’s supposed to be concave and shiny.
concave
https://arquidiamantina.org/it/how-to-better-identify-a-cold-solder-joint/
Image showing what you mean by that.
Holy shit
If you like this you might also like that
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Yes, he is. The other high upvoted poster I linked to is in the military. So a prison guard and a soldier were among the two loudest voices to have Hexbear banned.
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There are so many treaty conflicts going on in Canada right now. O KKKlanada!
Yeah that was a real
moment when I read that
https://lemmy.ca/comment/2262736
Is worth a read, it is by a user slandering Hexbear, turns out:
@init@lemmy.ml
Haven’t we learned our lesson about unprovoked wars after watching East Europe for the past year and a half??
@emizeko - not sure if you’re a Russian troll or a poor American doing the real fascists’ work for them–but I’m sorry for you my friend and hope the best for you. If you missed it in my other comments, I’m currently serving in the US military and am very confident that Western media at large is on the money, and that a novice OSINTer could refute the fanfic you posted. Best wishes.
and
Oh I’m familiar with it. My entire family operates this way. It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. I joined the military due to my parents fears about Russia and China invading or some shit. Now I’m the liberal because I’ve actually educated myself, and here they are defending the very things they were terrified of 25 years ago just to own the libs.
Followed by:
My mother was all into the satanic panic BS and Linin’s words about winning the next war via education and indoctrination of youth in our schools. Dad turned out, interestingly enough, to be closeted gay when they divorced because he was also an abusive sack of shit father.
Good that there was a divorce, but the setting of the phrases so close together is bad for online discourse.
The ironic part is that he is so indoctrinated from his small hometown upbringing that he still votes Republican-only and hides the fact his business partner and co-owner of his father’s ranch he inherited is also his boyfriend, or at this point, common law husband. He still hides it because the small community he lives in would probably not be very welcoming. The funny thing is that, at least before it was revealed he was hiding a boyfriend, he was hugely homophobic.
It took me literal years to deprogram, in no small part from reddit, traveling through the military, and seeing the hypocrisy of modern Christianity. It’s sad that so many will never question the values they grew up with and will turn into the next generation ignoramus.
a novice OSINTer could refute the fanfic you posted.
Cool I wonder if they paid attention when those OSINT guys proved that Ukraine committed the Bucha massacre
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oooh I got a shoutout from a babykiller, neat
I forgot that sopuli existed and was happier for it
If you like this comment you might also like that comment:
Well, federation was an interesting experiment. Lemmygrad and hexbear
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Top Comment:
they behave like it’s 4chan or some shit discord server,
Second Comment:
Their post about our defederation is absolutely unhinged, I must say – top keks if you can handle reading it.
Every liberal accusation is an admission.
Bonus quote:
It is unlikely that anyone believes what they say, as why would you waste time talking about something you believe in?
I wish all instances would. They’re the most disingenuous and stupid users I’ve ever seen. They might as well just fling their own poop at people’s houses because that’s the level of value they’re bringing to the internet discourse.
They aren’t here to discuss anything in good faith, they’re here to brigade and harass. That’s all I’ve seen from them.
They are freaks of nature.
least dehumanizing canadians
I love that they think our attempts to educate and our rage and contempt are both in bad faith. Like no, buddy, I am telling you exactly what I really think of you.
But the discourse!
Lmao @ the “not all landlords are bad” comments.
Not all landlords are bad, but all people under 30 can’t afford to live in Canadian citys.
It’s almost as if landlordism requires participating in a system of exploitation no matter how “nice” the individual may be
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TLDR: if you want to know if an instance will defed hexbear, check its instance block list for lemmygrad.
been making stray comments here and there about this, I’m telling y’all if an instance defeds lemmygrad it is 1000% going to defed hexbear, we’re calmer and more solitary than y’all, so all the accusations of trolling or brigading or just generally being “ebil tankies” against the grad can and will be used against hexbear too. I fully expect .world to defed lemmygrad in the next couple months too once they’re finally got their shit under control. Is what it is, hopefully normal users still manage to find us and switch to instances that aren’t ran by anticommunists.
I do see that lemmygrad is more aligned to some ML types, while hexbear is a bit wider, which does make for a difference. But it doesn’t seem the strain of communism is the main problem for the de-federating people.
However we have a more diverse set of opinions in our user base, since we don’t ban people that quick (i.e. in terms of war in Russia we have some revolutionary defeatists, some anti imperialists who favour a weakening of the imperialist NATO (which really irks other instance admins, etc.).
To moderate a sub sub sub comment of a main thread is a bit funny though.
When I saw that thread last night, I was expecting the links to the “offenses” to be wild. But then it was just bathroom humor, and a singular call to execute landlords, which I found hilarious.
I just do not understand the lack of humor of a lot of people, on these instances. You’d swear their lives are devoid of happiness.
Guaranteed most of them have some interesting opinions on the indigenous people of Canada and how they ended up in their current situation.
Most of them are starlight tourguides.
A lot of those are pretexts for defederating I think
What rubs them the wrong way is our position on various issues (despite them being far more deeply argued and sourced than the paltry answers we usually get)
Also, admittedly and to a lesser degree, likely the fact we’re numerous and terminally online so anytime something dunkable is posted even the small subset of online hexbear users that see it appear on their feed and interact must look like an army to them
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They defederated us for being perfect posters
We did everything right and they defederated us, folks
They hate Trump because he dismisses them and posts better than them, not because the valid reasons. They hate us for the same reason
Guilty. I will happily reply to every single comment in a thread without even really thinking about it. People think I’m stalking them and it’s like “nah, I’ve just made twenty comments in every single post that was posted today, that’s all”.
people dont do this?
Step 1: Execute landlords
Step 2: Land doesn’t actually get properly distributed and a new landlord rises
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit?
(Step 5: Revolution all over again)
Edit: /s in case it’s not clear. sigh Poe’s Law sucks 🤦♂️
Uhh excuse me I’m sorry what was step 2 again??
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they also purposefully obscure and ignore the distinction between personal property (held for use) and private property (held for profit)
In my experience, it has genuinely not occurred to most liberals that those are different things, but then when presented with the distinction they pretend not to have heard it.
My experience is that liberals, upon hearing the difference, will start conflating the two. Like they’ll say their house is both personal and private, since they intend to use it as an investment.
What a miserable way to see housing
The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry.
Spamming bullshit links to the pig poop picture
this is balls erasure
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yeah its kind of shocking how bare the sidebars are on most of the places I’ve looked
SMDH no respect for the rule of law in the lemmyverse.
Isn’t Canada that place with the blackface Prime Minister?
Yes they also let the natives into the forest in the winter to be left to freez to death…
No, that’s what the lying media will try and tell you.
Actually though, Justin Trudeau is our first black prime minister. He just does white face during public appearances to fool the Americans. Canada is actually a very progressive place and absolutely not racist at all.
Also currently engaged in a illegal inter-national war of aggression/invasion of unceded Indigenous land aka a sovereign nation.
It gets worse:
Sounds about white
Prime Minister Trudeau? more like Prime Minister TrueDouche
boom. gottem.
Stand on top of the prime minister while arguing with him
Lol they won’t be missed
Unserious country
Seriously genocidal country.
agree, after world war II the UK pulled inwards and the concept of “british canada” i.e. the canadian outpost of the imperial civil service got demolished and the place became america with free healthcare.
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That is the one thing the admins of those instances could really enforce, just ban people for usage of it and be done with it, but no instead ban 20k people.
