• Stitch0815@discuss.tchncs.de
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    22 days ago

    There is a lot to unpack there.

    1. My comment is not about if they are real or not, tbh I don’t give a fuck this will not be the reason why I think the CCP sucks ass.
    2. Who the fuck is talking about the US? Did you not read the part where I said every country with the death penalty sucks? This is just plain whataboutism.
    3. There are many problems with the death penalty (in any shape or form) and in my opinion it is very likely a mobile execution center would exacerbate the problems. More technical mistakes, more false executions and of course more potential for abuse, especially from a party that does not have a great human rights track record.
    4. Why bother? For example because it would be stealthier than an execution squad. Or for the same reasons the Nazis invented the Gas chamber: Because it’s more humane. Of course not towards the victims but towards the people doing the killing. It’s easier to cope this way.

    I might actually agree with your last point, it does not really make sense. But on the other hand, does it need to make sense to be true? I don’t think so.

    But also like I said before: I don’t care and neither answer will change my mind about the CCP.

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      22 days ago

      For example because it would be stealthier than an execution squad

      lmao absolute racist mush brain

      Why would they have to be sneaky about executions if they’re handing down death sentences in public courts? Do you even think about the shit you say for a fucking instant, or do you just see a different skin color than yours and start coming up with ways to describe them as sinister?

      “execution squad” holy fucking shit

      Just pure racism. I’ve read everything you’ve had to say about this subject and it’s absolutely vapid. Racism is the source. Like I said in the first place, your opinion is 100% vibes based.

      • Stitch0815@discuss.tchncs.de
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        21 days ago

        Your assumption here is that China has a properly working fair justice system, which a lot of signs point against. If you would have read the context of the comment you would know that the idea of “execution squad” actually came from the previous comment

        instead of just up and shooting someone?

        This has nothing to do with racism.

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          21 days ago

          No, dumbshit. The ‘assumption’ that you project onto me has nothing to do with whether China would need SECRET AND STEALTHY execution methods for PUBLIC TRIALS. Your racism is on display in how you need to make everything sinister because other.

          So don’t fucking lecture me about not understanding context or intent, you fucking illiterate.

          China has a properly working fair justice system, which a lot of signs point against

          And your racism is on further display here as you dishonestly hold an outside other to a much, much higher standard than you hold your own government which is 100x more deserving of this criticism. That’s what you’ve been crying ‘whataboutism’ for this entire time. People pointing out that you’re an unthinking racist. Speaking of reading comprehension being too great a task for your anglo brain pan.

          • Stitch0815@discuss.tchncs.de
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            21 days ago

            I am not even going to answer to the first part because you are just making yourself look ridiculous.

            However I am going to say that your second part makes you even look even more ridiculous. You just cannot grasp the concept of other people being able to do two things at the same time.

            I am indeed capable of criticizing a foreign government AND my government at the same time.

            However in this context one has nothing to do with the other.

            So I am going to say the line again and again until maybe you start to understand it.

            Whataboutism

            Just because my government (which btw you have no idea where I am from) is shit does not in any shape or form excuse any shit behavior of ANY other government.

            My initial take was never about the Chinese government and simply pointed out what a shit idea a mobile execution unit would be.

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              20 days ago

              I am indeed capable of criticizing a foreign government AND my government at the same time.

              No you aren’t. You have to have knowledge of the topic in order to criticize something and we’re here talking about how you’re reacting to a hypothetical. This is as much a thought terminating cliche as whataboutism.

              It appears that your brain just shut down when the criticism was articulated and focused at you. You brushed it off completely with a catty ‘ridiculous’ and went on like it never happened, changing the subject to denying you ever did anything to draw criticism at all.

              You just traffic in very reddit brained stupid behavior.

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      22 days ago

      Who the fuck is talking about the US?

      Don’t play fucking dumb. All this media hyper-fixation and constant public discourse on the “apparent” evil of the “Cee Cee Pee Pee” is because China has geared up to be the US’s main geopolitical and economic adversary in what is looking to be a period of increased global instability. So any time anyone brings up anything about how bad China is it comes with the clear implication of: “And this is why the morally upright Liberal Democracy of the US needs to remain a global hegemony!”

      So pointing out that even if this crap about China is true the US doesn’t have a fucking leg to stand on in terms of morality is completely valid, because why is any American concerning themselves with the splinter in the eye of a country they have no goddamn influence over when their own nation has a fucking redwood tree jutting out of their eye socket.

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        21 days ago

        What are you talking about? No one here was defending the US.

        If you can not grasp the concept of two thing being true at the same time I think we should end the discussion here.

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          21 days ago

          Two things can be true at once, but so far nobody has been able to cite any evidence besides “vibes” that the execution van thing is true. So why are you so concerned with this thing maybe happening in another country and not all the shit defiantly happening in your own?

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            21 days ago

            My comment is not about if they are real or not, tbh I don’t give a fuck this will not be the reason why I think the CCP sucks ass.

            I am not. As I explained here. This whole thread is just about why this would be a terrible idea (anywhere btw) and how people in this thread don’t see the problems associated with a mobile execution unit.

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      21 days ago

      i don’t care whether it’s real or not, and I’m going to argue why it’s awful and horrible on the assumption it’s real…

      great argument