For real, people should put disclaimers when recommending software like this. “I really like their vision, but installer beware! It is not ready for noobs! Also calling and texting just doesn’t work! Lol good luck!”
Yeah, people should not judge things without testing them first. Pmos works well on supported devices. Its not for the end user at this point imo though.
Not really. Pmos works increasingly well and keeps you away from being dependent on vendor specific android updates because it is actual linux.
You can check the devices page for compatibility. Most community supported phones can do phone things. Cameras are an issue though since they are highly complex and obviously proprietary crap.
Lineage and Graphene are based on android and bear the danger of support loss when google drops support.
PostmarketOS is actual Linux (alpine is the base to be exact).
Graphene definitely is a lot more advanced since it uses all the proprietary blobs of android. There is no use in comparing the two. Its like comparing lemmy and reddit in terms of technical finesse.
It works very well for some apps already but it is highly dependent on people supporting either financially or through contributions (code, issues, translations, documentation, tutorials).
Jeeeez. Thats interesting! Why is iz the best phone ever made in your opinion? Maybe I need it too?
Edit: I checked. A large quantity of motorola phones seems not to be unlockable and it has android installed. So is it out of support then or how are you managing to not run around with your data for grabs?
#0 kick stand
#1 if you do the chop motion, the led turns on
#2 twist motion turns on the camera
#3 large speaker with extra battery magnetically attaches to the back, it contains the kick stand. It is really really good for music
#3.5 nice fast responsive side fingerprint reader. Not that slow under screen crap
#3.6 no holepunch in the screen
#4 old OS doesn’t contain post 2019 three letter agency spyware
#4.5 240fps 720p camera actually rules
#4.6 can record in 4k pretty good
#5 nice oled, 4gb ram is enough,cpu is enough, has microsd for unlimited storage, battery lasts a day, new battery is 7$, new screen is 55$, new glass is 5$
#6 cost 30$ so I bought 60x
#6.9 magnetic mod 360 camera is excellent, polaroid printer is good, switch-style gamepad is excellent, car dock is excellent
#7 I will eventually crack security and be able to finally do general purpose computing
Downsides
verizon took a shit in the firmware
No headphone jack, curse steve jobs’ ghost
As for network, it is behind NAT so it can’t be accessed directly. And then I don’t run viruses on it. So security wise I’m bullet proof.
That’s why I have a moonlight client that remotes into an isolated immutable linux VM. And I’m working on a vanilla android VM so I coild basically do any android thing but in a high security, off device sandbox.
My phone basically is just a wireless touchscreen with kick ass speakers and a slow mo camera
I mean it when I said best phone ever made ! My next phone, I will 3d print and I aim to have all of that, plus the headphone jack and removable dual 18650
Technically, every smartphone is a computer. Sorry if you thought you bought a phone. :)
The difference is that this is a full fledged linux operating system instead of the proprietary crap that comes with ios and android.
The downside at this point is that it’s not in end user stadium but a lot of folks are working on making that a reality. If you consider yourself a tinkerer, chances are you might be able to test it, maybe on a non daily driver phone if you have an old one, especially if its out of support.
With a de like kde mobile, it can be closer to a phone experience. Proprietary, obscure and unmaintained drivers for several phone components make such a project harder to develop.
But disclaimer: its a foss project so it wont ever be perfect and if you like the project, consider contributing and help solving issues instead of judging because that doesnt help anyone.
PostmarketOS to actually own your phone.
How does this compare to lineageOS or GrapheneOS?
LineageOS is very stable and usable as a daily driver, meanwhile PMOS struggles to deliver basic functionalities like calling and sending SMS.
LineageOS has a bigger community and supports more mainstream devices, where PMOS primarily focus on PINE64 and Purism.
Wow that sounds like so much fun.
/S
For real, people should put disclaimers when recommending software like this. “I really like their vision, but installer beware! It is not ready for noobs! Also calling and texting just doesn’t work! Lol good luck!”
Eh… stick to a real phone OS if that’s what you want. Not every project needs to cater to the common denominator.
When I went to their page, I thought “wow, I could use all those old phones I have lingering around for something fun!”
Maybe I’m just dumb (highly likely) but their state of PMOS page doesn’t actually say what state the project is in. It reads more like an about me
Yeah, people should not judge things without testing them first. Pmos works well on supported devices. Its not for the end user at this point imo though.
I think you missed the detail that lineageOS and grapheneOS are based on AOSP and PMOS is based on mainline Linux.
Not really. Pmos works increasingly well and keeps you away from being dependent on vendor specific android updates because it is actual linux.
You can check the devices page for compatibility. Most community supported phones can do phone things. Cameras are an issue though since they are highly complex and obviously proprietary crap.
Lineage and Graphene are based on android and bear the danger of support loss when google drops support.
PostmarketOS is actual Linux (alpine is the base to be exact).
Graphene definitely is a lot more advanced since it uses all the proprietary blobs of android. There is no use in comparing the two. Its like comparing lemmy and reddit in terms of technical finesse.
It works very well for some apps already but it is highly dependent on people supporting either financially or through contributions (code, issues, translations, documentation, tutorials).
I can’t unlock my bootloader :*(
Sad face. What phone do you have?
The best phone ever made and probably my last phone. Motorola moto z3. 60 of them plus a large pile of spare parts
Jeeeez. Thats interesting! Why is iz the best phone ever made in your opinion? Maybe I need it too?
Edit: I checked. A large quantity of motorola phones seems not to be unlockable and it has android installed. So is it out of support then or how are you managing to not run around with your data for grabs?
#0 kick stand #1 if you do the chop motion, the led turns on #2 twist motion turns on the camera #3 large speaker with extra battery magnetically attaches to the back, it contains the kick stand. It is really really good for music #3.5 nice fast responsive side fingerprint reader. Not that slow under screen crap #3.6 no holepunch in the screen #4 old OS doesn’t contain post 2019 three letter agency spyware #4.5 240fps 720p camera actually rules #4.6 can record in 4k pretty good #5 nice oled, 4gb ram is enough,cpu is enough, has microsd for unlimited storage, battery lasts a day, new battery is 7$, new screen is 55$, new glass is 5$ #6 cost 30$ so I bought 60x #6.9 magnetic mod 360 camera is excellent, polaroid printer is good, switch-style gamepad is excellent, car dock is excellent #7 I will eventually crack security and be able to finally do general purpose computing
Downsides verizon took a shit in the firmware No headphone jack, curse steve jobs’ ghost
As for network, it is behind NAT so it can’t be accessed directly. And then I don’t run viruses on it. So security wise I’m bullet proof.
As long as you don’t visit shady websites…
That’s why I have a moonlight client that remotes into an isolated immutable linux VM. And I’m working on a vanilla android VM so I coild basically do any android thing but in a high security, off device sandbox.
My phone basically is just a wireless touchscreen with kick ass speakers and a slow mo camera
Thats pretty imprewsive. Thanks for elaborating. :)
I mean it when I said best phone ever made ! My next phone, I will 3d print and I aim to have all of that, plus the headphone jack and removable dual 18650
If I understand correctly, this thing turns your phone into a computer. But I need a phone…
Technically, every smartphone is a computer. Sorry if you thought you bought a phone. :)
The difference is that this is a full fledged linux operating system instead of the proprietary crap that comes with ios and android.
The downside at this point is that it’s not in end user stadium but a lot of folks are working on making that a reality. If you consider yourself a tinkerer, chances are you might be able to test it, maybe on a non daily driver phone if you have an old one, especially if its out of support.
a phone needs to be able to make calls and send or receive sms…
I agree but then you shouldnt be talking about operating systems because what you need is an old nokia phone.
Obviously postmarketOS can do that too. But it can also do what a computer does.
With a de like kde mobile, it can be closer to a phone experience. Proprietary, obscure and unmaintained drivers for several phone components make such a project harder to develop.
Newbie here, can this be installed on any phone?
Not any phone to be totally honest but many and growing.
Check here to see the devices that are supported.
But disclaimer: its a foss project so it wont ever be perfect and if you like the project, consider contributing and help solving issues instead of judging because that doesnt help anyone.
Amen
It can be installed on several phones… Probably not yours though.
List of supported devices: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices
Thanks!