Get in here losers
We’re dunking on everything
Data-driven Understanding
Zero data
very good paper, well done
are my feelings data?
When far-right groups like QAnon and r/The_Donald were deplatformed, they migrated to alternative platforms like voat.co, Parler, and Gettr. Facing restrictions on Reddit, tankie subreddits, r/GenZedong and r/GenZhou, transitioned to Lemmygrad.ml, a Marxist/Leninist online platform. Tankies’ move not only made them dominant voices on Lemmygrad.ml but also seemed to amplify the overall toxic tone on the platform.
crackers legitimately do not realize the ‘tankies’(these settler failsons’ words, not mine) BUILT that one. What do I expect from settler failson ‘academics’ who can’t do a lick of research, can’t do a lick of legible statistics formatting, and can only verbalize what Uncle Sam put inside them tho. Death to the settler empire, hope I live to help tear it down.
No mention of Hexbear? We get no respect.
Not only did they fail to realize that lemmygrad was built from the ground up as a commie instance, we escaped their notice…? I don’t understand how they missed us, lemmygrad and hexbear are like this: 🤞 and we’re always commenting on each other’s posts
Less than zero research went into this heap of word salad. It’s an essay of anticommunist vibes.
Our enemies are stupid but well-resourced
We’re clearly not fedposting enough. Remember - violent rhetoric only gets counted if the post has at least fifty words so you have to pad it out by ending your post with kill maim death gulag wall a few times.
Our fedposts are written in obscure emoji the scraper can’t parse
only thing i can think is they looked at lemmygrad right after genzedong got banned and they’ve been working on this paper for that and they didnt actually keep tabs on lemmygrad?
Why would they mention the libs on hexbear
There are literally dozens of us!
We skewed the violent rhetoric on the left!
i’m wondering what exactly they think the distinction is between “marxist/leninists” and “tankies”
Tankie is when you say Zelenskyy bad
Tankie is when you disagree with the US State Department
Tankie is when you weigh evidence before deciding how you feel about world events.
Tankie is also when you discuss geopolitics on geopolitics discussion forums.
Tankie is when you don’t want to give tanks to Ukraine
They’re Anglo labor aristocrat STEM nerds with no class consciousness, so nothing but
“Far-left” like most of us aren’t absolutely boring mls or traditional “i actually read theory and don’t base my politics purely on vibes” anarchists.
Leningrad was before their time. Kids these days.
However, when it comes to everyday societal challenges that are usually points of interest for the left wing—like policing, climate change, healthcare, housing, and workers’ rights—tankies seem less engaged.
Really huge “I clicked on a couple of memes and did no further investigation” energy radiating from this sentence.
They can’t identify “tankies” when they’re engaged on those topics because the only method they have of defining a tankie is as someone that supports AES and opposes the state department’s line.
Everyone who isn’t visibly a tankie is just a regular marxist to them. And everyone who is saying anything the supports AES or opposes hegemony is a tankie and not a regular marxist.
They don’t realise they’re the same thing behaving differently in two different settings. Marxists aren’t ranting about aes and stalin when talking about unionisation ffs.
This idea is strengthened by reports of r/GenZedong (a tankie subreddit) showing aggression towards Uyghurs online.
Oh gee, that sounds awful! I wonder what that was about?
“As an American, I am very proud of working for the US government in Guantanamo…”
Oh my god, how little self-awareness can a person have? Accusing China of having secret concentration camps while proudly declaring employment at a known, verified torture facility.
I stg every time I check the receipts on “far-left hate speech” it’s in response to like, “Hi, my name is Nazi McFedstein and I love torturing minorities.” How hard is it to make a wrecker account in a leftist space and then cite your own account saying something fucked up? They just don’t even care because they know their audience won’t follow the links because it fits their confirmation bias.
lol I remember right after we federated there were tons of people complaining about getting banned from here. They’d complain about dog piling, about how they’re getting harassed, how they were just talking normally and didn’t do anything wrong and were suddenly banned. And you’d look at the modlog and it was always something transphobic or racist they said, then reiterated multiple times
god i hated that time but also loved it. these
were incensed at being banned for ‘doing nothing’Oh yeah they’d post a meme with no context and get thousands of upvotes and then you check the modlog and it’s
Rushan Abbas debacle is probably the only time mainstream reddit had a good reaction, IMO certainly because it was so cartoonish and incompetent to a level that(at that time) it was impossible to defend. These days the reaction would be completely different, pretty much blue MAGA would be like “oh yeah so what they’re also actualy literaly a fed agent? Don’t you know that is required training for understanding how to use and spread Western Values?”
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I love they don’t even label every color they use
It’s true that not all the Muslim countries give a shit about Muslims - see gulf states, Saudi Arabia - but anyone with half a brain should be curious why even the most pragmatic, business oriented Muslim countries aren’t willing to side with the US despite the latter basically funding their existence, or why only white countries that participated in wholesale slaughter of Muslims for 2 decades are the only ones who “genuinely” care about Muslims.
Or if they’re extremely liberal, ask why the fuck Mike Pompeo and other GOP officials are concern trolling about the welfare of Muslim prisoners in a rivaling country given their views on Muslims at home and in the Middle East
Against China: Imperialists, colonizers, white supremacists
On China’s Side: All the actual Muslim-majority countries
Except Albania, poor sods, they want to enter EU so badly but don’t realise it’s impossible even having Turkey’s example.
- “Race traitor” definition of tankie (AES citizens aren’t described as tankies, Communist leaders today and historically aren’t identified as tankies. only westerners who admire the former categories can be tankies)
- Study is entirely focused to reddit communities (a platform used exclusively by losers and cranks)
- “Data Driven understanding” but it’s just the authors own conjured impression that Tankies care more about “state-driven events” and not “policing, climate change, healthcare, housing”. Author should choose a random PSL branch instagram and see what they post about if they believe this.
“Acceptance of X narratives” - 
making a conclusion based on analysis. Fuck, just because you disagree with someone, doesn’t mean you can write them as if they’re not reasoning, coherent, analytical agents. this baseline applies to chuds too if one was to seriously try and understand them also.
Aahaha these fuckin losers, these nerds get a load of this
What is a Tankie? The term tankie has seen several shifts in its connotation over the years. Originally, it was a pejorative label for communists who supported the Soviet Union’s interventions in Hungary and Czechoslovakia. Yet, its contemporary application is much broader. Today, the term refers not only to pro-Soviet hardliners but also to those who back China’s policies on matters such as the Uyghur genocide and the Hong Kong protests. A recent study by Petterson portrays tankies as: “regard[ing] past and current socialist systems as legitimate attempts at creating communism, and thus have not distanced themselves from Stalin, China etc.”
Just pathetic. What is this CIA-ass website? I’ve never seen or heard of it before.
Anyway, extremism is when you take a principled stance against verifiable, undeniable genocide
and thus have not distanced themselves from Stalin, China etc.
Yeah what’s the problem, lib?
My problem is the amount of heavy lifting done by that “etc.”. If you don’t want to be an authoritarian tankie you have to distance yourself from a person, a country and stuff like that.
Yes please distance yourself from me… and my dog… and from space travel as the USSR pioniered that… and Liaka why not she was a Soviet dog… Also Tetris, that was a soviet game so you have to hate that… um am I missing anything?
It’s all in bad faith, there’s no reason to take these people seriously.
They often opt to use the nomenclature ‘Communist Party of China (CPC)’—Beijing’s preferred language—over the more colloquial ‘CCP’ […] Overall, there’s a clear inclination in tankies’ dialogues towards viewpoints aligned with the CCP (or CPC in their vocabulary).
Brain legitimately spilling out of their ears.
We find the tankies’ usage of ‘Zelensky’ aligns with the r/DemocraticSocialism’s usage of ‘Trump’. This parallel suggests a certain scepticism or opposition towards Ukrainian sovereignty within the tankie community.
Wow! I had no idea it suggested this. Care to explain why opposition to a Western puppet who shakes the hands of Nazis and wears their merchandise means scepticism/opposition towards Ukrainian sovereignty (in a data-driven way)? Of course not. The “parallel” drawn is so shallow and meaningless. “This subreddit doesn’t like Trump, these people don’t like Zelensky, waow is there a common link here in that both of these groups don’t like separate people?” And then nothing is done with this comparison?? Filling the word count to the brim.
If I actually wrote something this bad and shallow I would at least forget to put my real name on it.
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more colloquial
more colloquial to who?
more colloquial to WHO, motherfucker??Libs love to (correctly) bring up that Republicans made a point to refer to the Democratic Party as the Democrat Party, solely because it sounds worse. They will then turn around and laugh at the idea of using the CPC’s correct name.
If you don’t call a square a triangle you’re an extremist sweetie.
They needed to build off of the word association with the CCCP otherwise people wouldn’t get mad enough on their own.
These are the same people who scream at you if you spell it Kiev
To be honest there is a lot of overlap between Zelensky and Trump, and certainly in their vibes and energy which is something that liberal should spot immediately since their analysis are based just on those (though they also miss those often).
Rather than highlighting concerns over detention and genocide, they portray the situation in a less severe light, e.g.:
Go back to watching Vaush
This is the person calling you a tankie
this is the person calling you a tankie
this is the person calling you a tankie
teleports behind you
While you were reading theory I was internalizing state department press releases.
While you were posting online I was the one reporting them.
While you spent months going outside and touching grass for your own ‘sanity’ I was using ‘data’ to make graphs about internet posts
Nothing personal, kid
When your sword costs so much, you can’t afford a belt…
God, is that one of the swords from SAO?! Abjectly shit taste. If you’re gonna pose with a fictional blade, dude coulda picked like. Rebellion, Frostmourne, Ryuko’s Scissor-blade, one of the 40 or 50 designs of Soul Edge and Soul Calibur; and this jagoff picks the single lamest protag’s single lamest blade? HE COULD’VE EVEN PICKED TRUNKS’ NONDESCRIPT-ASSED SWORD, Z-ERA OR SUPER-ERA AND I WOULDN’T BE ROASTING HIM LIKE THIS!
Such trash taste omfg.
That is 100% the sword from the SAO protagonist, and between this and including
Acceptance of CCP Narratives
Go back to watching Vaush.
I am extremely suspicious of mr assistant professor
Someone start a GoFundMe to get this dweeb a LoZ Master Sword
Froustmorne is based, Zoro’s katanas would be lit, demon slayer blades are crazy, zanpaktos are awesome, shard blades are sick. Light sabers are a classic. Practical HEMA swords are neat. Your local blacksmith likes to make swords.
Homie chose SAO???
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I know bullying is wrong and bad… but can we please bully him?
Their positioning, further to the left than subreddits like r/communism, r/socialism, and r/Anarchism
I like how they use informedtankie as their first example of a tankie space, then act like /r/communism and /r/socialism are somehow less so? All three literally share moderators, and have shared many former moderators who are now spread across hundreds of projects on the site.
It’s so fucking badly researched. They know literally nothing about socialists or the fact that among marxists there’s very little issue with “tankies”. There is no separation or division. They seem to think that there is.
They’d have a fit if they realised Corbyn upholds AES, advertises the Black Panthers, or Dianne Abbot defends Mao on national tv, or John Mcdonnel waving around Mao’s little red book in parliament. Like wtf do these people not know what marxists are? It’s like they have literally never encountered actual socialists before and really only have a particularly vague understanding of any of this shit. I can’t think of a single marxist figure in the mainstream (for a marxist) that wouldn’t fit their definitions of “tankie” if they ever actually inquired as to what any given marxist believes. The only real difference between any of us is our position on China diverging between ML, Trot and Maoists, which isn’t really that divisive at all.
The only group that anyone really has any beef with are the gonzaloites.
they have literally never encountered actual socialists before and really only have a particularly vague understanding of any of this shit
This was me until I was like 25 years old - though in my defense I wasn’t writing news articles about them.
Wait, someone think we are more ultra than the gonzaloists on r/communism?
Instead of boiling them we throw the baby out with the bathwater
There are unironic gonzaloists?
Here’s the /r/communism thread from when Gonzalo died:
https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/s/pP1YuU2QTW
There are absolutely unironic Gonzaloites and they run the /r/communism sub for some reason.
r/communism is only allowed to exist on Reddit because it’s ran by the most ridiculous characture of an ultra you can imagine.
They would literally go though people’s history and ban them if they had said pro-Bernie Sanders stuff like 5 years ago. I am not joking, people were actually banned for stuff like that.
There was some good info on there, but I never commented because I was afraid I’d get banned.
There was some good info on there, but I never commented because I was afraid I’d get banned.
So, you basically banned yourself?
🤯
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They certainly unironically purged everyone who ever posted at GenZedong after said sub cheered Gonzalo’s death.
I remember that day; that was the day I became a GenZedong regular bc at the time, I didn’t know why I’d gotten punted from r/communism
Yeah, they used to be more prominent. They usually call themselves Marxist-Leninist-Maoists though.
Sometimes ultras like Gonzalo too, but there’s overlap there
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Data science is easy when you can just ignore relevant data that disagrees with your predetermined result.
Hexbear has fallen, lemmygrad is the vanguard. I will now delete my account here, clearly this webserver is for libs.
lemmygrad is so back as the big scary tankie on the fediverse woooo
Honestly it feels like we’re swapping up with Hexbear every six months
explores online spaces where modern tankies gather and spread their extremist ideology
I am vomittting extremistly.
Fucking nazi fucks. Imagine thinking GenZedong is extreme. The liberal encounters someone with beliefs and convictions. They cannot comprehend it. Their world shatters in to a kaleidescope of possibility. Horrified, shaken, they cling to the only thing they know; change is impossible and anyone who wants to change anything is insane and evil.
Our light shines in the darkness; and the darkness understands it not
GOOD reference.
New political compass dropped
Nobody worth their oxygen has ever posted a graph like this unironically. Completely unreadable
don’t know what BunkerTube is, but if it’s a subreddit devoted to a growing movement of vaguely Hoxha-aligned video essayists that would be lovely.
It made me think of the spryograph art set I had when I was a kid.
Tag yourself, I’m lowercase c communism because it’s further to the left than those “Communist” liberals
Networks are notoriously difficult to visualize. All you can really say with a chart like this is “we have graph data”. I’m reading through the actual paper now.
Dune heads get in here. New map of the Golden Path just dropped.
liberals: IM NOT OWNED IM SO DIFFERENT THAN A CONSERVATIVE
It’s like they got a toddler to scribble crayons on some paper and then just threw labels wherever. More deranged than any nonsensical graph ever dreamt up.
At least it put a liberal on the right, where it belongs.
No Nazis on this map, though. Trash.
Tech companies must recognise and respond to the adeptness of groups like tankies in evading moderation efforts. Developing advanced content moderation tools that can detect and mitigate the spread of extremist rhetoric, irrespective of its political orientation, should be a priority. Collaborative endeavours between researchers and tech platforms can lead to the development of more robust and unbiased moderation systems.
HALT CITIZEN, YOUR POST DOES NOT SUPPORT THE NEOLIBERAL CENTRIST NARRATIVE, YOUR FICO SCORE HAS BEEN REDUCED BY 100 POINTS
lol the only way that they’d get away with this is if liberals try to convince everyone that class discrimination against the rich is bigotry on the level of racism or sexism. I guess they’ve already tried this. Hexbear was created after reddit banned violent rhetoric against slave owners.
They’d have to set up a framework where wanting a violent revolution against the capitalists is extremist, but calmly rationally talking about the need to evict poor people from their homes isn’t extremist.
They’d have to set up a framework where wanting a violent revolution against the capitalists is extremist, but calmly rationally talking about the need to evict poor people from their homes isn’t extremist.
They already have this part down
