• ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    show me

    Bro, I’m not taking homework from you. I have no need to prove myself to you. You’re going to either need to trust me on this, or just shut up about it, because I’m not going to provide you audio recordings of me talking to my current neighbors or people back in my hometown, or my private text conversations with people who I grew up with, or my Facebook comment discussions with people I barely know. I don’t harangue people on Lemmy about leftism because most of the people on Lemmy are already predisposed to our side.

    Don’t mistake online life for the only part of real life.

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      4 months ago

      You said

      I really don’t know where you get the idea that I’m all-in on Democrats somehow.

      I explained and explained how you could debunk that idea. I never suggested you had to. But until you do your comments say you’re “all-in on Democrats”.

      I don’t harangue people on Lemmy about leftism because most of the people on Lemmy are already predisposed to our side.

      And yet you defend moderates at every turn. Buddy, you’re a moderate. You’re a full blown Democrat establishment supporter. If you really are on the side of leftists and progressives then fucking stop fighting with us.

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        4 months ago

        I’m not defending anyone. I couldn’t care less who wins; I just want the GOP to lose, and I know what has to happen for that outcome. I just want to prevent actual, literal carnage by showing you what your petulance is going to lead to.

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          petulance

          Now we’re getting somewhere. So we’ve established you believe I’m petulant because I’m resolved not to vote for Joe Biden in the 2020 primaries. Now tell me how you describe moderates? Are they worse than petulant? Or do you have nothing but nice things to say about them?

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            4 months ago

            I have nothing but bad things to say about them. They’re way worse than petulant. But they’re the ones with all the cards.

            But wait a second. This time you just said you wouldn’t vote for Biden in the primaries, not that you would stay home in the general. Let me be clear–please vote your conscience in the primary. I want to see Biden at least voted against in enough numbers that he has to address it (I don’t have any confidence that he won’t be the nominee, there’s just no way he doesn’t carry the superdelegates). Just don’t stay home at the general.

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                Why? Are they here? Would that help?

                They’re short-sighted. They’re selfish. They think that they can get everything they want because they’re the swing votes. They’re holding the country hostage for their own ends. They’re ignorant of the gravity of their decisions or lack thereof. They’re reactionary. They’re making false equivalences between Republicans and Democrats that makes literal genocide into a minor inconvenience and the erosion of democracy to business as usual. They’re nodding along with right-wing media when they say that “leftists and MAGA are the same” when one wants to kill trans people and the other just wants health care for all. They’re treating the worst impulses of the Republican Party as though they’re delightful foibles. They’re seriously considering voting again for the biggest and most dangerous idiot the Oval Office has ever seen, despite a mountain of legal issues and promises to burn the world down if he wins. They’re okay with the Democrats taking no action against climate change, Israel’s genocide, and more, because it would be inconvenient for them. Moderates are the ones looking on with a smile while the right sets fire to everything.

                Whew. That was helpful, wasn’t it? Did we solve everything?