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    I think that’s a saying because racism is only harmful when people in positions of power act on their racism and black people traditionally don’t have power in this country. If a black judge is only prosecuting white people or anyone else that isn’t black, guilty or innocent, that’s a case of a black racist. But that situation is way more likely if the judge is white and only prosecuting minorities

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      If a black person kills you because they wanted to kill a white person, because they’re racist, is that not harmful?

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        Well that’s just murder, intentions be damned. I could also argue that someone pointing a gun at someone who is unarmed is a position in power but I think my first statement is better.

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          That’s a kind of insane way to continue avoiding admitting black people can be racist.

          You could apply the same logic to white people and say white people can’t be racist, there is no systemic racism, and so on. Black person got hung? That’s just murder. Black person didn’t get a job because of their race? That’s just hiring preference. Black person got framed for a crime? That’s just being framed for a crime. Black person didn’t get into a college because of their race? That’s just academic preference.

          Weird stuff and extreme lengths to avoid admitting black people can be racist.

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            My point was that murder is wrong no matter what. You are refusing to see nuance and I get the feeling when minorities complain about racism you roll your eyes because you’ve never had to deal with something like that in your own life, or even worse you compare your experiences with theirs. It’s not a judgement I don’t believe that to be a fact, that’s just what it seems like from what you’re saying.

            It’s totally possible for a black person to not be hired because they aren’t right for the job, that’s okay, not hiring someone is only wrong if your reason is their skin color or any other insignificant physical difference.

            Once everyone is on an equal playing field, black people can be racist. But we aren’t and that needs to be understood before any real change happens.

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              No, I know everyone experiences racism. You’ve kind of admitted your own bias in this discussion now. Black people can be racist. You say “we aren’t.” There was never a generalization to which you could apply “we” but it is clear you likely consider all white people to be racist. Even those white people who are subject to these supposed power structures that make them invulnerable to racism.

              A white student in a majority black school with black teachers and administration can experience “structural racism” in the same vein that a black person can in a similar situation. There is no delineation of the sociological definition so even then you have to accept black people can be racist. How about a white person in an African country? This exposes many of the problems with the blanket “black people can’t be racist” statement. Black people do hold power in many places around the world including within America and wield that power over some white people. Your statements just further support the damage your beliefs can cause other people when you ignore all of this nuance and bring it back to “we can’t be racist.”

              Black people can be, and some are, racist on an individual level and they can be, and sometimes are, racist in the new sociologically defined sense.

              One example might be Ethiopia.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Ethiopia

              This is a nation that never experienced colonization but widely engage in the slave trade going back to the 1400s. A white person in Ethiopia has none of the “structural power” and so on.

              the systemic oppression of a racial group to the social, economic, and political advantage of another

              Ethiopia has a lengthy history of racism towards many different ethnic groups. A white person there experiences systemic racism by black people. Again, black people can be racist.

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                “We” being American citizens are not all on a level playing field. Try harder