• ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip
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    At the time there was widespread reliable reporting that Trump was contemplating going to actual (boots on the ground) war with Iran because of the bump a President usually gets in approval when we go to war.

    If Trump had been contemplating (or doing) retaliatory strikes against Iran-supported terrorists, Biden would’ve been wrong to criticize Trump for thinking about bombing legitimate military targets.

    We’ve unfortunately cultivated both a very strong and mostly unaccountable (to the rest of the world) military and a lot of enmity from Shia Muslims (not that the Sunnis love us or anything).

    All that being said, Biden is a serious person who takes the job of President seriously, who takes the deployment of military power seriously, who definitely understands and considers the danger of escalation seriously. He took this action with the active participation of one ally (the UK) and probably in consultation with most of our closer allies. It was done in response to months of active attacks which could’ve hurt people and has diverted a lot of global trade traffic to go around South Africa.

    Trump is not and never was serious about anything to do with the Presidency, he wanted to bomb Iran for his poll numbers, and wanted to leave NATO.

    hope that helps.

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      Trump is not and never was serious about anything to do with the Presidency… and wanted to leave NATO.

      Lmao.

      Death to NATO nato-cool

      Trump wanted to leave NATO because he has no idea how US imperialism works, think of him as Homer Simpson pressing random buttons at the control room. Leftists hate NATO because it is the military arm of modern day imperialism. A “defensive alliance” that starts wars wherever it goes, and whose original staff members were actual 1940s German Nazis.

      It was done in response to months of active attacks which could’ve hurt people and has diverted a lot of global trade traffic to go around South Africa.

      So global trade is more important than Palestinian lives? You know what would’ve been a better way to get global trade back on track? To get Israel to stop committing genocide against Palestinians. One phone call from Biden telling Israel they won’t get any more US ammunition, and Israel would be forced to stop it’s genocide. If Biden was a “serious person” he would do just that. That’s the whole reason the Houthi government of Yemen is carrying out the blockade in the first place. To put pressure on Israel, and the “international community” to stop the genocide of Palestinians.

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      He took this action with the active participation of one ally (the UK) and probably in consultation with most of our closer allies

      But not Congress or the American people, which is what he was criticizing Trump for.

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        I can’t say I’m surprised at the absolute nothingburger of a response. It’s precisely what you’d expect from a pathetic lib who has to perform mental gymnastics in order to defend his favorite war criminal. I never ever want to hear these fuckers accuse enemies of the state department of doing a genocide ever again, because I’ll keep on reminding them how they’re absolute monsters for defending and supporting the genocide against the Palestinian people, and I will do so until they kill themselves.

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      If Trump had been contemplating (or doing) retaliatory strikes against Iran-supported terrorists, Biden would’ve been wrong to criticize Trump for thinking about bombing legitimate military targets.

      The U.S. is actively supporting a genocide in the region and the only reason these “terrorists” are “threatening” the U.S. is because the former is trying to prevent shipments from getting to Israel. And it’s not “retaliatory,” the Houthis are retaliating against a genocide. Genuinely the “Iran support” is just nonsense, I could call a number of countries “US supported” and it would be more meaningful because they’re actual Nazis.

      All that being said, Biden is a serious person who takes the job of President seriously, who takes the deployment of military power seriously, who definitely understands and considers the danger of escalation seriously. He took this action with the active participation of one ally (the UK) and probably in consultation with most of our closer allies. It was done in response to months of active attacks which could’ve hurt people and has diverted a lot of global trade traffic to go around South Africa.

      Wow, these attacks could have hurt people? You know what else hurts people? Genocide you liberal dipshit. He did it to “protect the free flow of international commerce” per his own statement yesterday. Biden is a genocidal fascist, and when he dies I will personally place you in one of the immigrant concentration camps. Also concerning that NATO shit, read abt Gladio.

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      All that being said, Biden is a serious person who takes the job of President seriously, who takes the deployment of military power seriously, who definitely understands and considers the danger of escalation seriously.

      Absolutely hilarious

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      You can say Biden is a hypocrite. He’s committing war crimes and claims he’s doing it in your name. You have no obligation to support or defend the actions of an imperial state.

      You said it yourself, the US military is pretty much unaccountable. But by defending Biden, you’re enabling that lack of accountability. Shia Muslims aren’t the problem here.

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      hope that helps

      smuglord helps us tack down exactly how little thought and investigation you put into your positions.

      may you apply such an inquisitive method before playing with live wires

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      It was done in response to months of active attacks which could’ve hurt people and has diverted a lot of global trade traffic to go around South Africa.

      Oh no! Why would they do something that could’ve hurt people? Surely not to bar supplies going to directly aid the murder of tens of thousands of people. What a terrible thing to do. Someone could’ve gotten hurt.

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      Biden is a serious person who takes the job of President seriously, who takes the deployment of military power seriously

      Serious people in the room, making serious decisions, seriously

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      All that being said, Biden is a serious person who takes the job of President seriously

      He’s so unserious about the presidency that Obama became irritated and confronted his advisors who are failing to execute a good reelection campaign.

      Trump is not and never was serious about anything to do with the Presidency, he wanted to bomb Iran for his poll numbers

      I don’t give a shit what their motives are because all of them result in the prolong genocide of people around the world, in this case, middle eastern people and specifically Muslims.

      wanted to leave NATO.

      This would’ve been the only good thing he did. But you’re stupid enough to think that the American empire will just let some clown unravel their work.

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      He took this action with the active participation of one ally (the UK) and probably in consultation with most of our closer allies

      And in the UK, Rishi Sunak is facing criticism from his own party for going over Parliament’s head on this. Just because he’s found another head of state as bloodthirsty as he is doesn’t magically make it justified.

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      We’ve unfortunately cultivated both a very strong and mostly unaccountable (to the rest of the world) military and a lot of enmity from Shia Muslims (not that the Sunnis love us or anything).

      Was this connected to anything, or did you just feel the need to obfuscate why Muslims, in particular Yemenis, are currently angry at the premier sponsor of genocide on the globe?