• theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Lol! As if any car driver happily waves at cyclists. People try to kill me both intentionally and unintentionally every single day on my commute!

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      In my experience the majority of people drive with care. A minority is distracted and a very small minority is aggressive and dangerous. The problem is that those minorities obviously cause a lot of trouble and are much more visible.

      Anyway people in car are still people. In fact tou can find a lot of assholes riding bikes, they are just less dangerous.

      BTW my interpretation of the cartoon is that those two know each other and the one in the car is already planning to switch to bike.

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        Anyway people in car are still people.

        Yes, but a lot of behaviour in a vehicle is determined by the vehicle and the road design so actually in a sense they aren’t. Someone might behave in a bad way as a driver despite being a nice person in other places. The same is true for other vehicles and their respective design encouraging or constraining certain behaviours and risks too.

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          This is good point, I didn’t consider.

          Another point is that people who ride bikes is usually more careful when driving a car, I remember also a scientific paper stating this

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            In a sense it is probably closely related to the effects where people behave differently on social media than in RL interactions or drone operators behave differently from pilots in the craft or artillery makes it easier to kill than looking someone in the eye when stabbing them with a short sword or how a temporary CEO hired specifically for it has an easier time firing 10000 people than a family CEO who knows half of their families. The perception of our environment, how people in our environment can perceive us and our options for interacting with our environment does influence our behaviour.

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        I absolutely agree that it isnt everyone and that there are plenty of asshole cyclists as well, I’ve had many a run in with them as well, but i definitely wouldnt say that the majority of people drive with care in my experience. You will always remember that one person that puts your life at risk over the 100s that don’t on each journey, but even among the hundreds I see countless people everyday driving using their phones and generally not paying attention to the task at hand.

        I guess I don’t know anyone that drives near to where I live so therefore the only wave I ever get is the middle finger salute! Still I’d rather they were pissed off with me for taking a defensive position in the road than them not see me and run me down!

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          I guess that a lot depends on where you live. USA an Netherlands would be on opposite probably, with Italy, where I come from, being somehow in the middle…

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            I agree that it would be very dependant on where you live. For the most part I’m thankful for where I am and that it isn’t too bad. I would not like to cycle in the USA, that’s for damn sure!

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      I’d say about 80% of the people who drive past me do so carefully, 19% not carefully, 0.9% intentionally trying to scare me.

      Then there’s that 0.01% that has thrown things at me, swerved into my line, brake checked, or driven in some way as to intentionally cause harm or inconvenience me.

      So far in 10 years I’ve only been forced off the road intentionally a handful times.

      Luckily most of my rides I can intentionally take low traffic streets. It increases commute time, but I like biking so I don’t mind. I also don’t have to bike, so if I’m having a bad day I can drive. Not quite the same as the guy cycling to work in the rain.

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        That guy would be me, I have no other way to get to work so rain, shine or blizzard I am out there. I also love cycling so for the most part I don’t mind too much. The worst is wind in your face forcing you backwards for sure.

        Thankfully I have only been physically knocked off the bike once in about the same time span and that was someone opening their door onto me and me hitting the edge of it, crushing my fingers and breaking them and spinning me around and off the bike into the incoming traffic. Thankfully there was nothing coming that way!

        You just have to stay ever vigiliant!

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          Also me. I really don’t want to deal with the traffic jams that occur when all the cyclists use the car