• tsonfeir@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      We’re talking about you and your refusal to say “I don’t support anything the confederacy stood for.”

      Do it.

      • Throwaway@lemm.eeM
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        Look, the reason I think you’re being disingenuous is I explicitly stated “Do not pretend the confederacy was good.” To me, that’s a clear indication that I don’t support the confederacy. So to just be absolutely clear, I do not support slavery, slavery is evil, and I think what you’re asking is a trap somehow, even if I can’t spot exactly how it’s a trap.

        And that goes doubly so that you’re still deflecting. Is rebellion worse than slavery?

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            Whats the trap?

            I feel like that specific wording is key to the trap. Maybe I’m just paranoid.

            But fuck it, I’ll walk into the trap and take the bait.

            I don’t support anything the confederacy stood for.

            Your turn. Is rebellion worse than slavery?

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              Only in the case where the rebellion is fighting for slavery and not against it.

              There is no trap.

              So take the post down, because if you don’t you’re saying it’s pro-conservative (by your own rules) and that conservatives support the confederacy.

              This type of thing shouldn’t even be talked about. The statue represents a fight for evil.

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                The statue represents a fight for evil.

                You correct. It represents the Democrats and their attempt to keep slavery. It’s exactly why it should be kept to remind people that the Democrats fought for slavery and continue to divide people by race even now.

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                  It represents the Democrats and their attempt to keep slavery

                  The slavery-loving, anti-civil rights malignancy that were the Southern Democrats shifted over to the Republican party, beginning with the contemptuous Strom Thurmond after the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

                  The heritage of the Lost Cause is in the Republican party these days.

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                    Here is a partial list ( there were alot of dems that voted no and I got lazy) of racists democrats that voted against the civil rights act of 1964 and when they stopped being reps/senators.  If the parties switched these guys wouldn’t be representing the racists democrats into the 90’s.

                    George William Andrews 1972 Robert Emmett Jones 1972 Armistead Selden 1968 Wilbur Mills 1976 James Trimble 1966 Robert Sikes 1978 Charles Edward Bennett 1992 Dante Fascell 1992 Paul Rogers 1978 Don Fuqua 1986 Sam Gibbons 1996 George Hagan 1972 Phillip Landrum 1976 Robert Stephens 1976 William Natcher 1994 Joseph Waggonner 1978 Otto Passman 1976 Gillis Long 1986 Jamie Whitten 1994 Lawrence Fountain 1982 David Newton Henderson 1976 Roy Taylor 1976 Joseph Evins 1976 John Patman 1976 Herbert Roberts 1980 Olin Teague 1978 William Poage 1978 James Claude Wright 1989

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                Except it doesn’t. It represents the exact opposite, that the fight against evil was won.

                So no, I’m not taking it down.