So I recently started playing role queue ranked, and I have no idea how I can get better, or whats the difference between lower and upper MMR players.

I used to play Starcraft, and I always knew in each league what was my problems, what went wrong in the game, and what I could do better in the next one.

In guardian level games I can see players stopping spirit breaker using charge of darkness with rod of atos in the blink of an eye, using tinker perfectly, starting and finishing every teamfight perfectly, and other plays that I don’t know how can get better. And still its only guardian, and can’t imagine what they do better in immortal.

But dota has so much more factors, like games can get decided during picking heroes, there are 4 other players in the team that I don’t always watch / know what they are doing. Is it even possible to judge a players skill correctly in dota?

In my current league (around guardian 2) 90% of the games are about one team absolutely destroying the other. I feel like whatever I do is pointless, because either the team is doing fine without me, or can’t do anything that will turn the game around, because of bad picks or that 1 or 2 players with 0-9-1 at 8 minutes.

I prefer to play soft / hard support. Not sure how much this sound like “everybody is bad except me”, but I’m totally open to the idea, that I’m just bad. But as I said, I have no idea what I’m doing wrong.

So I was wondering what could I do to get involved in better games. I don’t even dream of getting a high MMR (though it would be pleasing), I only want to play fun and close games where the team works as a team. My only guess / hope is that at higher levels games will get better.

  • Azzu@lemm.eeM
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    11 months ago

    I only want to play fun and close games where the team works as a team

    You are directly responsible for this! How often have you been talking with your teammates? How often have you been telling them what you want to do, and that you want their help? How often have you told someone: “I’m with you, when you go in, I’ll be there”?

    My guess is roughly never. That’s also normal though since you have no idea what you’re doing and are completely focused on your own gameplay, which is understandable.

    But if you want a game like that, you can have it by communicating your plan. Of course, that requires some sort of plan. And it requires that your teammates play along. So it won’t work every time. But you communicating and trying to bring the team together raises the chance a lot. Most people want to have someone in thejr team coordinating the action, and that role is very valuable.

    However, as you noticed already, it’s incredibly hard to just focus on your own gameplay already, so until you get to the higher levels, where people got their own gameplay down a bit more, that kind of communication is indeed rare. So communication and teamplay does indeed increase a bit in higher levels.

    But you still need someone doing what I just described. If you’re not doing it, then you’re relying on someone else to do it. And in that case, there’s only a relatively small chance that one of your teammates will be that kind of person. So if you care about teamplay and playing together a lot, it’s best to learn to make plans and coordinate with your team yourself.

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      11 months ago

      You are directly responsible for this! How often have you been talking with your teammates?

      I try to use the ping / chat wheel as much as I can. I love that feature, has nearly everything I need. I noticed that there is a setting to ignore messages from everybody except friends, and its the default so usually I don’t really chat, only reply if somebody is saying something. I’m sure typing messages is superior to using chat wheel only, but not sure how much

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        11 months ago

        I’m not talking about typing or chat wheel at all, I’m talking about voice chat. Typing is much too slow and distracting and chat wheel does not allow you to be specific, for example how are you supposed to say “Void used his Chrono, go fight RIGHT NOW” with either chat or chatwheel? With chatwheel you can’t express this, with chat you have to stop playing to type which might be a death sentence and also too slow if you really need to go NOW.

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          11 months ago

          Ah yes totally understandable, didn’t thing of voice chat. I just don’t feel comfortable speaking with random people online, especially after seeing what they can type in chat

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            11 months ago

            Understandable. I do not care at all anymore, I just mute and move on.