• boredtortoise@lemm.ee
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      1 month ago

      In other parts of the world, snipers would draw in the authorities but I guess in the US they are LEO themselves

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      1 month ago

      Well yes, I knew that snipers are routinely deployed at large crowds. That is why this is posted here.

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        1 month ago

        i think you should post again but this time include all events this year that have had snipers at them, would be a fun little game of statistics i think.

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          I wanted to find a list where deployed snipers where used to a positive effect in a crowded area. So far no luck…

          I could not find many good current reports on deployment in general. Here is some older info (2004) so the number is likely a wee bit higher now.

          https://www.policemag.com/special-units/article/15349350/swat-snipers

          some bits of note are:

          “The ASA study, which is titled “Police Sniper Utilization Report 2005,” revealed that contrary to the old 70-yard myth, the average range at which police snipers engage suspects is actually 51 yards.”

          and is funny when combined with:

          "The overwhelming majority of SWAT callouts do not result in shots fired by the SWAT team. ASA estimates that there are 10,000 callouts per year. Nationwide for the 20 years included in the study that adds up to about 200,000 deployments. ASA calculates that out of those 200,000 callouts only 172 incidents have ended with a SWAT sniper killing a suspect.

          The survey also shows that police snipers don’t always kill suspects that they fire upon, nor do they always intend to. ASA documents 219 SWAT sniper shootings. Of these, it’s known that 104 struck the suspect in the head or neck, 104 in the body, seven in the arm or hand, and two in a leg. The suspect died of his or her wounds in only 172 of these incidents.

          ASA notes that even some of the suspects who were shot in the head and neck survived their wounds. However, none of these suspects were shot in the brain or spinal cord. Instead, they were hit in the jaw or mouth."

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            1 month ago

            that’s certainly interesting, i just meant a generic list of all the times it’s happened, though more stats is always welcome, i’m sure they don’t exist yet though.

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          Are you saying that it is not dystopic? or it’s not comonplace enough to be boring?
          I’m glad we dont have/need (probably can’t afford) that shit where i live.
          Do they have them at sports events and carnivals, music festivals and stuff like that too?

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            i’m just saying that this is really common, and i’ve seen it like 4 times the last few years.

            It’s pretty dystopian, but so is everything. There is nothing that isn’t dystopian in life lmao.

            Homie they build sniper nests in stadiums. This is a pretty commonly done thing. I’d be surprised if they weren’t at the majority of large events that ever happened.

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              That does sound crazy.
              I’ll not complain so much about the odd bag checking queue and occasional half hearted patdown/grope we get over here any more.

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                lol, yeah it’s definitely something. It’s nothing compared to the TSA though, which is a such a blight on humanity it’s done less than letting a horny 12 year old work the job solo instead lmao.