TLDR: a county that has a mosque that had several 9/11 terrorists as well as the Fort Hood terrorist is letting kids skip the Holocaust lesson. All democrat board too.

What the actual fuck.

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    The Israelis are defending from a genocide.

    The Oct 7th attacks killed 1200+ Israelies or thereabouts. If that’s genocide, then what is the 30K, many of whom are killed at sites of aid? Where is the self-defense in getting killing starving people?

    And the current Republican nominee, who supposedly had a great economy, has entertained several Holocaust deniers, including Nick Fuentes, a well-known anti-Semite. The same nominee had Stephen Miller as a senior White House adviser, the guy who dreamt up the Muslim ban, and is also a well-known anti-Semite.

    I like how your opinion piece says that the right purged anti-Semitism decades ago. Sure, we’ll assume that’s true (it’s not, but sure). The right has since reintroduced and cozied up to anti-Semitism by embracing Donald Trump.

    In other words, the right is full of anti-Semites and people who support Israel’s genocide. It’d be more accurate to describe the modern Republican party as one of hate and destruction. That’s how they can harbor both anti-Semites and “Kill them all” politicians that support Israel’s genocide.

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      The Oct 7th attacks killed 1200+ Israelies or thereabouts. If that’s genocide, then what is the 30K, many of whom are killed at sites of aid? Where is the self-defense in getting killing starving people?

      That blood is on Hamas. Israel is dismantling Hamas they choose to fight in the middle of their people. They choose to hide with civilians.

      The right has since reintroduced and cozied up to anti-Semitism by embracing Donald Trump.

      Trump isn’t anti-Semitic. It’s why he was popular in Israel. His daughter is a Jew.

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        That blood is on Hamas.

        Can you explain this? I hear this from Israel genocide supporters a lot. And it’s like Israel’s hands are tied, as if they’re required to murder civilian en masse because they’re at war with Hamas. So, how are Israel’s actions caused by Hamas as if Israel doesn’t have choices?

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          Hamas is still attacking Israel. Under international law they have the right to self defense. Hiding in civilians doesn’t mean Israel loses the right to self defense.

          Hamas could stop this at anytime but they refuse. As such the blood is on their hands.

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            Hamas is still attacking Israel.

            Mkay.

            Under international law they have the right to self defense.

            Okey dokey. Got it. Though, my minor quibble is how it’s self-defense to go into another’s territory and fuck it up. I guess we’re using the U.S. definition of self-defense which is just aggression. Anyway, continuing the argument…

            Hiding in civilians doesn’t mean Israel loses the right to self defense.

            Wait a second…you skipped a lot of steps.

            • Implied premise: Hamas is hiding among civilians

            Okay, yeah, I’ve heard that before. Sure.

            • Implied premise: Because Hamas hides among civilians, combatants and civilians are indistinguishable.

            This premise or something like that must be perceived to be true to justify killing civilians. And it’s the critical premise in your argument.

            Implied Premise: Israeli self-defense targets civilians and Hamas combatants alike.

            But Israel is bombing sites of aid! People are just trying to survive and Israel is like, “Welp, looks like the children of Hamas need to die.” And then massacres them. These people aren’t attacking Israel as they clamor for a piece of lettuce. What is the genocidal country of Israel defending against as it destroys food and water and the people trying to get them?

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              Though, my minor quibble is how it’s self-defense to go into another’s territory and fuck it up

              International law allows you to do this. How else would you stop the rocket attacks unless you go to destroy the rockets ?

              This premise or something like that must be perceived to be true to justify killing civilians

              It’s backed by the rules of warfare.

              Now the starving part is where I draw the line. Israel has an obligation to keep support services going to the best of their ability.

              I feel this has gone on to long. 60 days and I would have been cool. We are well past that point. They need to wrap things up and call it a day.

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                An obvious question is does international law concerning war have anything to say about not killing civilians? Can you go get the rockets and just…murder everyone in your path?

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                  That isn’t what Israel is doing. Israel goes to extensive paths to minimize.casualties. They go above and beyond to limit the amount of people killed.

                  Hamas goes out of their way to maximize civilian deaths.

                  The two are not the same.