You’re not wrong about US wanting to remain hegemon, but no one from democratic countries would want to align to countries with you know… authoritarian. Surveys still show that much of the world still prefer the US as a superpower, despite many countries wanting to trade with China. Having trade relations does not mean the parties are friends. More often than not, countries are just business partners. That’s called realpolitik-- and a cynical one at that. Countries that are even allied still want something in return. A lot of white Western champagne socialists never bother to research, ask or get to know the actual opinions of those from countries who are being bullied by China in South China Sea from their exclusive economic zones. Japan, China, South Korea and ASEAN signed a trade union, but it doesn’t mean they will all relinquish their own territorial claims. For many white Western champagne socialists, the conditions of black and brown people they purport to try to alleviate from Western imperialism are tools for exploitation for their own ideological self-masturbatory, pat-on-the-back congratulations.
Another factor why the US is still preferred than China as the global power is because US has better soft power, something that China could never amount to. The totalitarianism of China is something that many will not be impressed by. Not trying to make the US flawless, it’s clear they aren’t, it’s just that they’re lesser evil than China. Oh and before anyone says anything about US being worse than China and vice versa, I know they’re both bad; this isn’t evil Olympics. Many people surveyed thinks both countries are threat to world peace.
Cope all you want, keep engaging in the echo chamber of self-fellating champagne socialist circles who take for granted the freedom of speech and rule of law while sitting in front computer at the comfort of one’s own house in a Western country, but the link I gave showcasing many developing nations think China and US are both threats is not going to change. White Western socialists never really do think what other countries think. They’re just as condescending and guilty of white man’s burden mentality as imperialistic white capitalists that brown and black people in developing countries can’t think for themselves. Both believe either Western-made ideologies of socialism and capitalism will save people of colour from their misery.
Youve made not a single argument as to why or how China is a “greater evil” than the US, you deserve nothing but mockery in response to such a nonsensical assertion. And it’s telling that you have to reach for ridiculous claims about your interlocutors who you know nothing about instead of reaching for any actual argument, which is what you would do if you had one. On some level I think you actually know the US is worse or you would have attempted to argue the point instead of making stuff up about me.
Taking a page now from Israel’s “anti-semite” non-sequitur logical fallacy when criticising the government I see. Funny how tankies will actually resort to logical fallacies when they are put under scrutiny. Plenty of coping from white champagne socialists when they enjoy freedom of speech and rule of law in a liberal democratic society that they criticise. Methinks they only want handout for their champagne-drinking habits, and hence wanting pure socialism.
Youve made not a single argument as to why or how China is a “greater evil”
And it’s telling that you have to reach for ridiculous claims about your interlocutors
Which one has concentration camps for Muslim minorities and bully their neighbours? Which one arrests and send their citizens to concentration camps for criticising their government?
Well, actually, I just realised you are a communist judging from your profile picture. Of course, you’re having cognitive dissonance right now. I always take pleasure when champagne white communists are speechless after being called out for their hypocrisy, and when they find out I’m a person of colour with lived experiences under authoritarian regimes, so they can’t retort with anything with slurs they normally reserve to their fellow whites. Speaking of which, I would dare you and see your true colours show.
Yes, anything that comes from state-controlled media are to be believed. It is though hundreds and thousands of Uyghurs, who have better things to do like put food on their table for their family, would collectively lie about how they’re being treated. This is why many countries-- as linked in my previous comment-- did say they prefer the United States as a great power nonetheless. Chinese authoritarianism is brazen and on the face. Funny how no one mentioned what Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia and Malaysia think of China’s presence in South China Sea, and why they conduct military exercises and host bases for European and US military. I dare any white champagne socialists and communists in here to give slurs to me what they do to fellow whites who criticise communism.
(am I in a tankie community? The subreddit name is confusing. That might explain some coping in here.)
Which one has concentration camps for Muslim minorities and bully their neighbours? Which one arrests and send their citizens to concentration camps for criticising their government?
Not China, that’s just made up nonsense. The US does have concentration camps along its souther border to detain the people fleeing conditions the US created with it’s ultraviolence against Latin America though, and does hold Muslim prisoners without trial in a torture camp that they illegally operate on Cuban soil, for example.
Which one has been bombing or invading some country somewhere every single day for the last 40 years and which one hasn’t bombed or invaded anybody over the same time period?
Which one has the largest prison population in the world despite having far fewer people? Which one has cops kill almost 1,000 people every year? Which one has 800 military bases around the world to enforce its hegemony on other countries? Which one was founded on slavery and genocide? Which one used nuclear weapons on civilians, which one maintains a nuclear first strike policy to this day? Which one has hundreds of thousands of people sleeping in the streets?
It’s good to point out the flaws of US-- great. But why deliberately lie and say concentration camps in China do not exists? Will the US arrest you and I for pointing out their flaws, as opposed to what China will do to you and I, or your parents, siblings or neighbours for criticising the government?
But if they don’t exist how can we sneer at the poors for their poverty while also simultaneously claiming that they’re privileged and pampered as a dismissal of their criticisms?
I wish the phantasms in your mind really existed because bilking the US like that would be rad. Unfortunately, only the rich get that much money from the state for free.
You’re not wrong about US wanting to remain hegemon, but no one from democratic countries would want to align to countries with you know… authoritarian. Surveys still show that much of the world still prefer the US as a superpower, despite many countries wanting to trade with China. Having trade relations does not mean the parties are friends. More often than not, countries are just business partners. That’s called realpolitik-- and a cynical one at that. Countries that are even allied still want something in return. A lot of white Western champagne socialists never bother to research, ask or get to know the actual opinions of those from countries who are being bullied by China in South China Sea from their exclusive economic zones. Japan, China, South Korea and ASEAN signed a trade union, but it doesn’t mean they will all relinquish their own territorial claims. For many white Western champagne socialists, the conditions of black and brown people they purport to try to alleviate from Western imperialism are tools for exploitation for their own ideological self-masturbatory, pat-on-the-back congratulations.
Another factor why the US is still preferred than China as the global power is because US has better soft power, something that China could never amount to. The totalitarianism of China is something that many will not be impressed by. Not trying to make the US flawless, it’s clear they aren’t, it’s just that they’re lesser evil than China. Oh and before anyone says anything about US being worse than China and vice versa, I know they’re both bad; this isn’t evil Olympics. Many people surveyed thinks both countries are threat to world peace.
The US is way more authoritarian than China, probably the most authoritarian country in the world by any reasonable metric, so I don’t see your point.
A fundamentally ridiculous assertion, the US is many orders of magnitude more evil.
Cope all you want, keep engaging in the echo chamber of self-fellating champagne socialist circles who take for granted the freedom of speech and rule of law while sitting in front computer at the comfort of one’s own house in a Western country, but the link I gave showcasing many developing nations think China and US are both threats is not going to change. White Western socialists never really do think what other countries think. They’re just as condescending and guilty of white man’s burden mentality as imperialistic white capitalists that brown and black people in developing countries can’t think for themselves. Both believe either Western-made ideologies of socialism and capitalism will save people of colour from their misery.
You’re a clown, lick my nuts.
Spoken like a pampered, jobless, welfare queen living in his mother’s basement.
Youve made not a single argument as to why or how China is a “greater evil” than the US, you deserve nothing but mockery in response to such a nonsensical assertion. And it’s telling that you have to reach for ridiculous claims about your interlocutors who you know nothing about instead of reaching for any actual argument, which is what you would do if you had one. On some level I think you actually know the US is worse or you would have attempted to argue the point instead of making stuff up about me.
These sinophobes really can’t help themselves and fall apart so easily upon even a bit of scrutiny.
Taking a page now from Israel’s “anti-semite” non-sequitur logical fallacy when criticising the government I see. Funny how tankies will actually resort to logical fallacies when they are put under scrutiny. Plenty of coping from white champagne socialists when they enjoy freedom of speech and rule of law in a liberal democratic society that they criticise. Methinks they only want handout for their champagne-drinking habits, and hence wanting pure socialism.
Which one has concentration camps for Muslim minorities and bully their neighbours? Which one arrests and send their citizens to concentration camps for criticising their government?
Well, actually, I just realised you are a communist judging from your profile picture. Of course, you’re having cognitive dissonance right now. I always take pleasure when champagne white communists are speechless after being called out for their hypocrisy, and when they find out I’m a person of colour with lived experiences under authoritarian regimes, so they can’t retort with anything with slurs they normally reserve to their fellow whites. Speaking of which, I would dare you and see your true colours show.
Ah sorry, you didn’t get the memo, that one doesn’t play any more!
The deradicalization campaign finished and now that terrorism is over, the schools closed down.
All 10-15,000 people involved now know Mandarin and a trade.
Yes, anything that comes from state-controlled media are to be believed. It is though hundreds and thousands of Uyghurs, who have better things to do like put food on their table for their family, would collectively lie about how they’re being treated. This is why many countries-- as linked in my previous comment-- did say they prefer the United States as a great power nonetheless. Chinese authoritarianism is brazen and on the face. Funny how no one mentioned what Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia and Malaysia think of China’s presence in South China Sea, and why they conduct military exercises and host bases for European and US military. I dare any white champagne socialists and communists in here to give slurs to me what they do to fellow whites who criticise communism.
(am I in a tankie community? The subreddit name is confusing. That might explain some coping in here.)
Not China, that’s just made up nonsense. The US does have concentration camps along its souther border to detain the people fleeing conditions the US created with it’s ultraviolence against Latin America though, and does hold Muslim prisoners without trial in a torture camp that they illegally operate on Cuban soil, for example.
Which one has been bombing or invading some country somewhere every single day for the last 40 years and which one hasn’t bombed or invaded anybody over the same time period?
Which one has the largest prison population in the world despite having far fewer people? Which one has cops kill almost 1,000 people every year? Which one has 800 military bases around the world to enforce its hegemony on other countries? Which one was founded on slavery and genocide? Which one used nuclear weapons on civilians, which one maintains a nuclear first strike policy to this day? Which one has hundreds of thousands of people sleeping in the streets?
It’s good to point out the flaws of US-- great. But why deliberately lie and say concentration camps in China do not exists? Will the US arrest you and I for pointing out their flaws, as opposed to what China will do to you and I, or your parents, siblings or neighbours for criticising the government?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“Welfare queen” absolute clown
Glad to hit nerve there, queen.
Welfare queens do not exist
But if they don’t exist how can we sneer at the poors for their poverty while also simultaneously claiming that they’re privileged and pampered as a dismissal of their criticisms?
I wish the phantasms in your mind really existed because bilking the US like that would be rad. Unfortunately, only the rich get that much money from the state for free.
Sounds authoritarian 2 me