Hi all, Hi Ticoombs,
Firstly, thanks so much for making this great instance. I’m completely new to Lemmy; I really love how open, tolerating, and friendly it feels on this specific instance!
Secondly, only a question: is it correct that some instances have upvoting & downvoting, and this instance only upvoting?
If so, I’m curious about the rationale behind this. I actually don’t have an opinion on this. Just curious.
If this question has already been answered, I’m sorry, I couldn’t find it.
Thanks!
Thank you very much for your quick, considerate and comprehensive answer. It gives me a better understanding of the current complexity. I understand your vision, and strategical and tactical choices in the current situation. They seem reasonable at the moment.
Just my personal 2 cents: my interest in this issue primarily stems from 2 points:
a. Overall ‘good’ people/instances/groups can belief or state ‘bad’ things at particular moments.
b. People can change.
c. People are complex and layered. Blocking inherently is not. d. Blocking leads to bubbles, almost by definition.
a. I preferred reddit to traditional forums, because the latter have always felt like Google search at the moment: sifting through the unuseful to find to useful. I find Slack inefficient for similar reasons.
b. I tend to prefer neutrality, even over objectivity. I hope Lemmy can be a place where I can find vast amounts of information in general, as well as a variety of knowledges, experiences, contents, and views. Even incorrect ones. I am less interested in single narratives, even if they seem cohesive or confirm my own biases.
Reddit seemed to provide at least some of this in a better way than many other social media. And this seemed contributable in part due to their, albeit flawed, up/down vote system.
N.B. Most of these points mainly concern my personal experience/preferences regarding comments/comment sections. I am a noob when it comes to posts and how voting, trending/hot etc. work behind the scenes, and a lot lot of other things.
I don’t know whether any of this is helpful or not. (If not, eh, ban me? 😊)
Anyway, I fully support your vision and well-considered choices in the current context!
Thanks again for all your efforts in making this such an open and welcoming instance!
ArOa
You will be welcome here and I think you have chosen the right place! Lemmy by design federates (integrates to use another term) with every other “activity pub” enabled software. You can see the complete list of every server we (Reddthat) are connecting with: https://reddthat.com/instances . (It’s at the bottom of every page)
If you manage to scroll alllllllllll the way down to the bottom, you will only see 3 instances we are blocking, and those are the developers’ test instances. Where they test the latest version of Lemmy, as well as other items. It is a very small list of blocks that we do on an instance level. Users are welcome to block as many other users or communities as they wish.
We might be one of the biggest instances that still federates with, what others would classify as, “problematic” instances. You can read more about my stance on ensuring we federate with everyone here https://reddthat.com/comment/371578 and then the followup comment here: https://reddthat.com/comment/372073 .
Something I like to tell people face-to-face is Lemmy isn’t Reddit. It’s Reddit-like. We don’t need to be the same as Reddit, so why don’t we try something different. Something better. At the end of the day if people don’t like it here they can migrate to another instance. I hope they don’t, but they can! There is zero lock-in. There are even Lemmy migration applications popping up. A great win for the users.
I wouldn’t want Reddthat to be the biggest instance. There have already been issues with 3 (at the time) biggest instances and now they no longer talk to each other. (See here: https://reddthat.com/post/35469)
Our (all lemmy instances) explosive growth has happened in what amounts to less than 2 months. We are still in our infancy. There will be roadblocks, there will be issues, and there will be differentiation of opinion. I hope Reddthat can come out on top as a place where everyone is welcome. As long as they can be civil of-course 😜 .
This is always beneficial to hear! No-one on reddthat who can have an actual conversation will be banned while I’m here. Hearing and learning from a differentiating point of view is how society works, and how we grow as people.
Tiff
Heya, Tiff!
I wasn’t originally in this conversation but I have to say that this reply encompasses everything that drew me to Reddthat, what I stand for and what I want to defend and I can only hope this is a long term goal and stance that governs this instance.
Thank you for the work so far handling Reddthat, and know that you are appreciated by us all.
<3
♥ No worries & I’m glad you are here!
Thanks again for you quick and extensive answer.
I was indeed looking for an instance that federates with a large number of other instances. And I did look at the server lists of a lot of them. But there are a LOT 😅 So it is great to hear I actually found the right one!
Just as pedantic sidenote, sometimes public space is conceptualized more as a cupboard than a square, while low mobility attributes to closed stratification. (sorry) Anyway, I really like the concept behind the fediverse.
So great! Lemmy is all new to me and you are absolutely right in your point about Reddit! I actually hope things will be different here ☺️
Thanks again for your work and open vision!
ArOa