• PeepinGoodArgs
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    9 months ago

    The key is to avoid social problems due to shrinking the economy.

    The biggest issue is the rhetoric of degrowth economics faces is the idea that a sinking tide lowers all boats. The entire economic industry will come out against it. Even now, economists oppose sustainability because it restricts growth (though they do so without evidence and in opposition to the idea of competition, but who cares about that).

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      9 months ago

      I’ve sat on a meeting in a big corporation where one of the middle managers straight up said that if you’re not growing as a company, you are stagnating. How that math works in the long run was not covered.

      That’s what we’re up against.

      • Empiricism@sustainability.masto.host
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        8 months ago

        @frezik @PeepinGoodArgs @Pomegracias

        The typical workplace is employers: owners, shareholders & their management section, who are the minority decision makers. And the employees who are the majority (sometimes in the hundreds of thousands), but don’t have any decisions about the running of the business

        That system is not democratic

        In a democratic work environment (a cooperative) the majority would not choose to move the business to where the labour was cheaper

        We are up against capitalism

    • MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
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      9 months ago

      It comes from experience for a lot of poor voters, that policy changes tend to hurt them and help the rich. Unfortunatly that is not without reason.