Btw ACAB probably doesn’t apply to her as she’s support (same way the wacky corenor wouldn’t count). In real life, imagine calling a social worker employed by the cops a bastard.
Also is NCIS even about cops? And isn’t there a whole arc on dealing with internal corruption? Or am I mixing that up with another show.
Not too surprised there. In an ideal world, your support staff are independent, scientific, rigorous, etc., but I very much can imagine someone fudging data to help the cops.
My sister-in-law moonlights as both an EMT and a firefighter when she’s not a cop.
Can I get a schedule so I know when she’s a bastard? Like, if she’s called off the wildfire line in town to do some traffic management, is she a bastard if she’s driving to the site in her blue digs in her personal vehicle, or if she is driving back home with both uniforms in the trunk is she bastard-adjacent? She’s normally a really great person, so I don’t want to misstep.
I gotta know at what point she fulfills your generalization requirements.
I think that kinda depends on how you view morals and ethics. One could claim that a profession doesn’t define your morality…but I doubt many say that about the Nazi or Isis.
Now that’s a bit hyperbolic, but it does lend weight to the framework of the argument. Can an individual be “good” and simultaneously be supporting a system or group that is “bad”.
Now you can wholly reject the notion that the police are bastards, but that would just be a different debate, and likely a futile one. But, it would still be a stronger argument than your original.
moonlights as both an EMT and a firefighter when she’s not a cop.
If my day job is working as a corrupt politician, but I moonlight at a homeless shelter…does that cancel each other out? If a person wanted for murder stops a mugging, does he get a get out of jail free card?
She’s normally a really great person
I don’t doubt she’s a great person to you and people she cares about, but we’re not really talking about personal relationships.
It gets blurry, because “defund the cops” isn’t the Libertarian wet dream of no police force, but to change the funding for less funding to negative areas (like military APC and so on) and instead hire councillors and such, with the same current budget.
Man I had such a crush on her.
Btw ACAB probably doesn’t apply to her as she’s support (same way the wacky corenor wouldn’t count). In real life, imagine calling a social worker employed by the cops a bastard.
Also is NCIS even about cops? And isn’t there a whole arc on dealing with internal corruption? Or am I mixing that up with another show.
ACAB can apply to support staff. Especially forensic staff.
Funnily enough, Behind the Bastards just did a couple segments on pseudoscience in forensics.
Not too surprised there. In an ideal world, your support staff are independent, scientific, rigorous, etc., but I very much can imagine someone fudging data to help the cops.
When “expert witness” is a paying job, there’s always someone willing to testify about absolute horseshit to favor one side of a case
My sister-in-law moonlights as both an EMT and a firefighter when she’s not a cop.
Can I get a schedule so I know when she’s a bastard? Like, if she’s called off the wildfire line in town to do some traffic management, is she a bastard if she’s driving to the site in her blue digs in her personal vehicle, or if she is driving back home with both uniforms in the trunk is she bastard-adjacent? She’s normally a really great person, so I don’t want to misstep.
I gotta know at what point she fulfills your generalization requirements.
How many cops has she arrested or ticketed? This is a foundational component of the calculation.
I think that kinda depends on how you view morals and ethics. One could claim that a profession doesn’t define your morality…but I doubt many say that about the Nazi or Isis.
Now that’s a bit hyperbolic, but it does lend weight to the framework of the argument. Can an individual be “good” and simultaneously be supporting a system or group that is “bad”.
Now you can wholly reject the notion that the police are bastards, but that would just be a different debate, and likely a futile one. But, it would still be a stronger argument than your original.
If my day job is working as a corrupt politician, but I moonlight at a homeless shelter…does that cancel each other out? If a person wanted for murder stops a mugging, does he get a get out of jail free card?
I don’t doubt she’s a great person to you and people she cares about, but we’re not really talking about personal relationships.
Even when she’s not a cop she is still a cop if that answers your question.
Begs the question if traffic management falls under ACAB, haha. Although, some parking enforcers can fuck all the way off.
The janitors who mop out the drunk tanks are bastards too.
They’re the biggest bastards!
Yes, NCIS is about cops. They’re the cops of the Navy and Marines.
I consider those who directly enforce the law to be under the ACAB umbrella. People who provide assistance to them may or may not be.
It gets blurry, because “defund the cops” isn’t the Libertarian wet dream of no police force, but to change the funding for less funding to negative areas (like military APC and so on) and instead hire councillors and such, with the same current budget.