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  • Tl;dr: Use a dictionary instead. Machine translation isn’t really the correct tool to translate single words.

    Maybe check if one of the other instances on the web get it wrong, too. For example you could try: https://libretranslate.com/

    From experience I can say libretranslate isn’t as good as Google Trabslate. Especially with figures of speech or single words.

    To translate single words, a dictionary works way better. And it gives you several options. So you can choose depending on context.

    For translating longer text, I think AI will be the future. I think it already outperforms Google Translate. But I’m not aware if any local AI solution that’d replace Libretranslate (as of now).



  • Thanks. I’ve learned a lot.

    In the end I still don’t understand that specific culture. I’ve scrolled through a few of the hashtags and links you gave. Some of them I’d shorten to half the length. That some bubbles in an infographic have different color is completely useless information without telling what they’re trying to convey with the color and how that connects things. Other images I think they describe the details that are just fluff. Those details are irrelevant because they just set the atmosphere. Just say what the armosphere is, then. I think that’s making the text too long and all over the place. Making it difficult to focus on what’s really going on in the picture, what’s important, because there’s so much noise added.

    But some of the descriptions are really next level good. I wouldn’t have expected that. I think I need some more time to familiarize myself with that culture. I can’t tell if it’s some people being ultra good at it and some people mimicking it without really understanding its purpose… Or it’s me not grasping the concept / culture.

    If you say you’re already adding a concise description and a long one and adding that to the body text… Seems I’ve arrived with my reasoning somwhere near what you’ve already been doing.

    I see now why you’d like to talk about the Fediverse as you originally said. Seems to me like a matter of the Fediverse not interconnecting the way you’d need it to. And I see a fundamental problem here. I got that you’re using Hubzilla. But we’ve got to think about the perspective of a Mastodon user as long as most of your audience is there. And that platform is meant for short chunks of text. The whole platform and interface is designed to cater to that. And you’re doing long blog posts. There is a fundamental split between the two. Yet the platforms interconnect. I don’t see a way to make messages short and long at the same time. And the Fediverse is about connecting a diverse set of platforms. There is bound to be some difficulty and I don’t know if there is a good solution.

    And your perspective might be a bit spoiled. Since you’re on Hubzilla and that’s meant for a wide variety of tasks. And Mastodon on the other side is meant to narrow things down to the use-case of microblogging… It’s kind of per design that your content falls through in the process of narrowing it down. And lot’s of Fediverse platforms are meant for one task only. Either pictures or videos or threaded conversations like here. That also doesn’t translate to other platforms and looks weird on Mastodon. The users of “all-in-one” platforms like Hubzilla or Friendica etc get it all. But then it get’s problematic when interconnecting to users of “narrower” platforms. It’s always been that way. And I don’t see a way around that. At least fundamentally.

    And this manifests in the smaller issues you’re having. Like alt-text and culture that’s different amongst platforms. It’s all consequence of connecting diverse places. With your added explanation, I think I’ve now homed in on your issue…

    Lemmy seems to be the wrong place to discuss it. I don’t see the users here have and particular knowledge about such topics. And Lemmy doesn’t federate in any unique way that’d make it stand out concerning this. It’s a good place for discussion, though. Mastodon’s choice to narrow down social media is valid. So if they like not to have long text, it’s their choice. And I applaud them for developing their own culture. I’m not sure if there is a good place to discuss this. Maybe within the “all-in-one” platforms like Hubzilla. You’re bound to find more people with the same struggles there. But you also want to reach us and the Mastodon users. I mean these places are also about linking external content and blog posts. So linking a Hubzilla blog post starting a discussion about this is the best thing I can come up with. But you need to lay down the groundworks properly. I mean it also took me several back and forths to understand the core of the issue. And it’s kind of a niche topic in a niche. So brace for little engagement or interest.


  • Eigentlich meinte ich erstmal Schicht. Oder Team je nach Job. Aber ich muss dazu sagen, ich habe noch nie in dem Job gearbeitet. Ich habe nur mal ein Praktikum gemacht. Also viel Ahnung habe ich nicht. Aber mir ist dabei aufgefallen, dass die Einstellung zur Arbeit und das Klima schon schwankt und teilweise sehr unterschiedlich war. Auf derselben Station, nur an einem anderen Tag/Uhrzeit mit anderen Leuten. Die Station kann man natürlich auch wechseln, das hat vielleicht den gleichen Effekt, ist aber wahrscheinlich etwas aufwendiger.

    Letztendlich stimme ich den anderen Leuten hier schon zu. Deine Formulierungen sind schon ganz gut. Nur irgendwie muss es menschlich halbwegs klappen, zwischen den Leuten die zusammenarbeiten (müssen). Wenn du in einer Gruppe bist die so ganz anders drauf ist als du, gibt es immer Reibereien. Ist dann halt die Frage ob man sich auf eine Lösung einigen kann. Und ob sie dich akzeptieren so wie du bist. Wenn sie schon so drauf sind wie du beschreibst, habe ich da Zweifel. Oder man schaut ob man irgendwie mit anderen Leuten zusammenarbeitet, deswegen mein Vorschlag. Das ist aber wahrscheinlich Glücksspiel mit welchen Leuten man zusammengesteckt wird. Und manchmal gibt es ja auch keine festen Teams.

    Miteinander Reden ist sicherlich der diplomatische Weg für den Anfang. Vielleicht war ich etwas voreilig schon den übernächsten Schritt anzusprechen. Gängige Tipps für’s miteinander Reden sind: Sachlich bleiben. Und Ich-Botschaften formulieren: “Ich wünsche mir …” also “Ich möchte gern über andere Themen reden.” oder “Ich bin nicht so in der Stimmung zum Quatschen während der Arbeit, ich habe zu viel zu tun.”

    Letztendlich kommt es echt auf die Leute an mit denen man zusammenarbeitet. Da reichen oft ein oder zwei komische Leute um das ganze Arbeitsklima in der Gruppe zu dominieren. Und das ist auch manchmal schwierig dagegen anzukommen.


  • Oh well. That’s a bit more complicated than I thought.

    First of all, it might be true that people here won’t understand you. And I’m not sure if Lemmy is the right choice for you anyways. The OpenSim community doesn’t seem very active. And since you’re talking about 13.000 character descriptions… That will also not fly on Lemmy. I think we have a 10k character limit for posts and comments here. You’d exceed that here, too.

    And then Mastodon is a microblogging platform. Originally intended for short messages. I know some people use it for a different purpose. And some people go there because of the short and concise messages. So I’m not really sure if that’s your place either. It might be you using the wrong tool for your task, since it’s intended for a different purpose and you’d need a different tool.

    I mean I don’t know where the community of 3D worlds mingle… Maybe you can take some inspiration from them if you’re not the only one.

    But it could very well the case that the alt-text and character limits of the platforms aren’t the issue here. But you choosing platforms that are not suited for your task. I’d say if your texts regularly exceed a few thousand characters, you don’t want a microblogging platform, but a macro-blogging (or just blogging) platform. There are some that are meant for long texts. And you can even use Wordpress or something like that, do your own blog and install an ActivityPub plugin if you want a connection to the Fediverse. I mean in the old times, people used more than social media and shared their thoughts in forums or on a personal blog, or a website dedicated to a topic. That comes with almost no restrictions.

    Ultimately, I haven’t seen your posts/toots. And I don’t really know the alt-text culture on Mastodon. Maybe my advice isn’t that good.

    Another thing: Is it really necessary to write that super detailed description in an alt-text? As far as I’ve learned about alt-text in webdesign, that is originally intended to give a concise description of the image in the context regarding the rest of the text. It is meant to be short and concise, like a tweet. It’s read by screenreaders and displayed if the image didn’t load. It’d be more something like: “a medieval market squares with dozens of booths, bustling with player activity.” But you won’t describe what’s sold in the market stand at the bottom right, or the portal on the left, unless it’s important in the context of the rest of your post. If you want to do a comprehensive analysis or a discussion like in art class, I’d say that goes into the main body text, and not into the alt-text. I’d consider that “abuse” of the alt tag. And it might even do a disservice to people who need accessibility, who now get a completely different experience than everybody else. I’d put that detailed description into the normal text. Maybe make it a spoiler so it collapses.

    In the end I’m not part of that community, and everything depends on what you’re trying to achieve. But that’d be my perspective: A blog would be better suited. And long descriptions go into the body text, not the alt-text. And if you choose to write longer blog posts, you can still link them on Lemmy, or post a link to it on Mastodon.