there are still some major challenges though. Not insurmountable, but challenges nonetheless. One of the most interesting I found is that you need to protect the meat from bacteria and fungi. A animal has an immune system (and a host of antibiotics pumped in to them). A piece of meat growing in vat hasn’t. But it does have optimal conditions for growth of bacteria. So you need a clean lab environment. That’s possible, but very hard to scale up.

I think the hype was there, but now is the moment the industry needs to mature and make it work in a way.

Alright I get your point.

Probably it will be chaos regardless, and coming out of that turmoil a form of socialism would be great. I don’t think any of these fundamental transitions happen smoothly.

Another point just struck me about this piece. It talks about how these robots probably will be used for military purposes as well. That also means that every company with (let’s say) a thousand or more bots will have asignificantl armed force on call. What will that mean for power dynamics within countries?

I don’t think they are cowards, but in this piece indeed these implications don’t come forward. In other articles and books they do talk about what the conditions should be for using the many transitions they talk about for good, or if those conditions aren’t met, how they will not benefit most people. I think their work does capsulate well how these kind of transition will totally change current markets and partially economic systems, but how this exactly will play out is anybody’s guess.

Thanks for the honours :), but again, just glad to help - get a lot out of the community as well

no problem :), glad to help

It is, come by here pretty often - and can guarantee it is not AI - but just a good picture of our super systematic infrastructure

I tried an VW ID3 this weekend, the software was low key, it mostly relied on you having Apple Car or it’s android equivalent.

Totally willing to pitch in a few bucks :)

Thanks a lot, this is very insightful.