It’s a (probably ai gen) DND druid meme???

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All community rules are bastards? Weird take

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Alright, let me walk back and apologize for my performative argumentation and be extremely clear about my opinion in the shortest, most sincere way I can do this.

• Fewer human drivers is good

• Fewer cars on the road at all is better

• Self driving does significantly increase the safety of roads, however increasing transit and reducing cars on the road increases safety for everyone by a larger margin

• While selfdriving is good to reduce the number of human caused accidents, telsa’s implementation is has no secondary sensors, and no map correlation for it’s vision results

• Even with self driving, car centric infrastructure steals valuable space that could be used for housing, transit or pedestrians

• Ultimately, I think our disconnect is that my argumentation made it seem like I dont support both (I was really unclear, I apologize) self driving is really awesome for road safety, but on it’s own, it still means there’s generally the same amount of cars on the road. Implementation of (reliable) self driving in combination with other regulatory changes such as larger public transit investment, stricter testing regulations, stronger punishments for breaking driving laws, and more regulation on where cars are allowed will do more than self driving on its own could ever do.

Sorry perhaps I was unclear. (Or perhaps you willfully misinterpreted me)

You want Tesla to create transit infrastructure?

I don’t think Tesla should be making anything as long as the current figurehead is in charge. Transit should always be public infrastructure… Not sure how you would have thought I was advocating for privatized public transit.

You honestly think there’s a person that exists that has done this?

I also never intended to suggest that self driving is pushing individuals from adopting transit… Moreso that the proverbial carrot of “fewer road accidents thanks to self driving” is likely to prevent regulators from taking the note effective steps of:

• reducing the number of drivers on the road with stricter testing and enforcement of road laws
• providing an alternative for those who can no longer drive via larger investment in public transit infrastructure

I understand it might not feel that way, but it’s the actual truth, we have massive amounts of data on this, and your feelings don’t outweigh that.

Yep. And fewer cars overall makes pedestrians safer as well. You dont want human drivers, I dont want cars

Sorry, have to disagree. Tesla’s special blend of vision-only driving and software built seemingly with generative ai leads to unsafe situations.

On top of that, self driving is a solution that keeps cars on the roads… Yucky. Make the driving tests stricter to weed out idiots and build much more robust transit infrastructure for everyone else.

Musk and Trump fan calling me a chud. Thats rich.

Yeah, people tend to dislike deranged narcissistic transphobes that parrot racist dogwhistles all day while also driving multiple companies into the ground and endangering people’s lives with his vehicles

They havent achieved anything. They sow dissent claiming that electoralism and direct action must be mutually exclusive resulting in dividing the leftists on this platform and broadly across the internet.

To be clear, BERNIE IS VERY CLEARLY THE BETTER OPTION but since the US has a terrible electoral system, all they are achieving is a splitting of the vote unless they convince every last liberal and undecided in the country to vote the same way. 50% fascist is better than Project-2025% fascist.

acting like your morals are any better than Republicans

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You know what, you’re right. Looks like I’ve gone too long assuming they were interchangeably usable by changing the surrounding words.

I’ll redact my previous statement, though to be clear, I still strongly disagree that one could say that the attackers schizophrenia was definitely a factor in this without having a previously existing mental evaluation and the expertise to understand it. You could say that it’s more likely to have been influenced by his schizophrenia, but as I previously noted, a relatively small minority of schizophrenic people are violent (10-15%).

You don’t need to be a psychologist to determine whether his mental illness was a factor.

I’m not saying his mental illness was the reason.

Please continue saying more contradictory statements.

If you think it could be a factor, then you think it might be a reason that he did this. It could be a factor, but again, neither of us are equipped to evaluate the mental status of someone based on news articles.

Edit: Factor =/= Reason. My argument in this message is flatly incorrect due to this, though I’ll leave it up.

Please don’t tell me to stop and breathe, I’m fully calm in this discussion.

My argument is that no one in this thread is a psychologist who has evaluated the schizophrenic person. Not you, not me, not anyone else. We can speculate as to the cause, but making prescriptive statements like “he did this because he has schizophrenia” only serve to stigmatize the condition further when we truly have no idea if that was the cause.

A person who is mentally ill and has done violent things, doesn’t mean they did those violent things because of their illness.

In fact, your “common sense” isn’t even supported by science.

• Only 10-15% of schizophrenic people exhibit violent tendencies

• Schizophrenic people living in communities are up to 14x more likely to be the victim of violence rather than the perpetrator

• Finally, this is anecdotal, but for whatever it’s worth, I have multiple (3) friends who are schizophrenic and they are genuinely the kindest people I know, whether or not they are on their medication.

Stop vilifying the mentally ill.

He’s had some incorrect stances, but on average, Chomsky is extremely based, actually.

Care to provide how this is misleading?

Are you from Canada by any chance? Ive only heard other Canadians use Roly-Poly for these little guys.

Jokes on you, I’m still young Mr krabs at heart