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Cake day: July 31st, 2023

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  • What you are proposing may seem nice, but any ethics committee would shut this down instantly, anywhere in the world.

    But let’s imagine we can do this, somehow, and that all the ethical issues are resolved. Harvard might be able to grow their “thing”, or order it from some specialized company; how do you not condemn all research in developing countries?


  • The thing is, new chemical compounds are being developed all the time for all kinds of applications. What you’re saying is not really “we should let sick people die rather that try to get a cure”, horrible enough as it is, but rather “let’s dump whatever shit we come up in the environment without testing its effect first”, and while things are bad currently, there is no depth to how worse things could get if we didn’t even bother trying to prevent the worst from happening


  • This being your only option would be poverty, not an alternative to it. And highly dangerous jobs aren’t comparison here, testing drugs before animal testing is is no way a level of danger comparable to being a woodcutter

    Human testing is necessary, and while the disenfranchised are already subject to it, skipping animal testing and directly proceeding on the most vulnerable would be truly despicable.

    Furthermore, if the issue is consent, then this “solution” does not resolve it at all. What you get from subjecting poor people to the choice of cold & hunger or being a test subject is not consent, and once again minorities, disabled people, LGBT and women would be the primary victims


  • Ah, yes, testing drugs pre-animal trial on the poor and disenfranchised sound so much better, truly the end of a dystopia

    Edit: Not to mention, the meat industry produces despair of the same level while being entirely superfluous (something animal testing, unfortunately, is not) and on a scale which would be an ocean compared to the drop that is animal testing



  • No, that’s not my point. You’re saying “The abused have become abusers”, and while yes, israelis are Jews, abused who became abusers, Jews as a whole aren’t represented by israel, so not all the abused became the abusers.

    So my point is that you can’s say “the abused became the abusers”, only some of the abused became so, who are people with a common identity which is distinct to being Jew, and that identity is zionists.

    Zionists are abused who have become abusers, Jews as a whole have not.















  • Shorts fucking suck. It keeps recommending to me exactly four types of videos:

    • stuff I have already watched, liked and commented – sometimes a few minutes prior
    • videos I’m wildly uninterested with and systematically mark as irrelevant or instantly skip, yet it keeps bringing up videos of the same subject
    • very old old “news” shorts
    • stuff of people I’m subscribed to – which is fine, just not what makes great algorithms

    Meanwhile, in a very short time, tiktok has managed to make me discover communities I had no idea I’d like to watch content from, while subtly managing to stop showing me some of the content from those communities I don’t enjoy