Israeli soldiers in the Palestinian enclave have shared dozens of videos mocking the destruction of Gaza, trivializing the bombings and playing with objects found in abandoned houses

Israeli soldiers in the Palestinian enclave have shared dozens of videos mocking the destruction of Gaza, trivializing the bombings and playing with objects found in abandoned houses

  • BringMeTheDiscoKing@lemmy.caEnglish
    44·
    7 months ago

    From the article: [Israeli soldiers] often use the Israeli hit song Charbu Darbu, which has lyrics such as “We’ve brought the whole army and I swear there will be no forgiveness,” and “every dog gets what he deserves in the end.”

    That’s a hit song in Israel, is it? How dreadful.

      • BringMeTheDiscoKing@lemmy.caEnglish
        10·
        7 months ago

        I’m sure Israeli Jews are taught about the Holocaust. As a public-school educated kid in Canada, I was from grade 6 onward. School trips to Holocaust museums, theatre performances of Diary of Ann Frank, watched Schindler’s List I don’t know how many times when the teacher wasn’t there. That or Jurassic Park or the Mask. Weird, I know. Took lots of notes so I could pass my tests.

        I wonder if Israel’s right wing establishment was also taking notes when they studied the Holocaust, and why.

    • BringMeTheDiscoKing@lemmy.caEnglish
      8·
      7 months ago

      Somebody mentioned that there are fight songs popular in my country as well. It seems like the post was deleted, and I only just got home, so I didn’t have a chance to look up more than one of the songs they listed, which was a White Stripes song, but the whole thing struck me as a false equivalence, since my country’s soldiers are not blowing the crap out of civilians and using those songs as a soundtrack for tiktok videos of them doing it. Also, I seriously doubt a song that contains such dehumanizing language about a specific group of people would become a hit in modern Canada. And finally, I have no love for Canada. They did their own genocide, but that’s not the current topic. So, calling false equivalence on a post that was deleted. Guess I’m ‘that guy’ 🤷

      • thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        7 months ago

        from Wikipedia:

        " Mulvey of NME described “Seven Nation Army” as a “diatribe against fame”.[17] The song’s lyrics were inspired by the growing attention received by the White Stripes. According to Jack White, the song tells the story of a person who, upon entering a town, hears its residents gossiping about him and proceeds to leave the town in response. Driven by a sense of loneliness, he ultimately returns. Regarding the song’s meaning, White stated, “The song’s about gossip. It’s about me, Meg and the people we’re dating.”[3] Maginnis described the lyrics as presenting an “obstinate attitude”, citing the opening lines: “I’m gonna fight 'em off / A seven nation army couldn’t hold me back / They’re gonna rip it off / Taking their time right behind my back”.[8]"

      • Cosmonauticus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        7 months ago

        Also, I seriously doubt a song that contains such dehumanizing language about a specific group of people would become a hit in modern Canada.

        It definitely could. It’s the easiest thing in the world to dehumanize another group. Its happened in every country on the planet. The idea that Canada is somehow immune from genocide or blatant bigotry is laughable considering you guys are digging up mass graves of first nation kids at residential “schools” that were still being operated in the 70s

        • BringMeTheDiscoKing@lemmy.caEnglish
          4·
          7 months ago

          (also, for the record, the last residential school closed in 1997, not the 70s. Off topic, but I am not at all a fan of Canada.)

        • BringMeTheDiscoKing@lemmy.caEnglish
          2·
          7 months ago

          I didn’t say that Canada is immune to bigotry or genocide. I even made reference to the genocide that Canada committed, and I would talk at length about it, if it werent off topic.

          But Canada is a moderate enough country that – again – I doubt a song with such dehumanizing lyrics against a group of people would ever be a hit in modern Canada. Nothing about my statement claims there is no bigotry or genocide in Canada. It is more of a statement of just how much bigotry and acceptance of genocide there must be in Israel for a song like “Charbu Darbu” to be a #1 hit.

  • Candelestine@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    7 months ago

    Play is a mechanism by which humans practice skills in a safe environment before needing them for real. This is part of why so many people try to use video games sometimes to grasp harsher, more inaccessible realities, like war, or geopolitics.

    So long as you remember that the game is skewed towards being fun, and as a result, has to misrepresent reality to just be enjoyable, this can be used to assist in quality education.

    I would not have grasped certain things about the pioneering days as easily without Oregon Trail for instance. Today, a game like EU4 can help demonstrate certain principles in history. Just so long as you remember that the game has to be fun, where the actual leaders experiencing similar stuff probably hated a lot of it, and didn’t have the option to savescum, start over when they fucked up, or even just pick a different game to play.

    edit: Forgot to tie that all together. Anyways, put people who are still developing skills into an environment where they can “play” at something, even life and death politics, and they will.