Rayhan Asat is one of the most vocal advocates today for the Uyghur people, her people, whose homeland in northwestern China is the scene of the Communist Party’s ongoing commission of what the United Nations says may be “crimes against humanity,” and what U.S. President Joseph Biden called a “genocide.” Among the roughly 1 million Turkic peoples detained, imprisoned, and forced into labor there — most of them Muslims — is Asat’s younger brother.

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        It’s not whataboutism when the article literally talks about Joe Biden, the god damn president of the US, calling it a genocide. The same genocide denier in chief that is casting doubt on the actual death toll in Gaza and playing defense for the genocidal Zionist regime.

        Is there not a genocide against Black people happening in the US right now? If not, what exactly is the difference?

        It’s a pretty obvious double standard.

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          what exactly is the difference?

          There is no difference. Both are crimes against humanity. But what you are doing is whataboutism nevertheless.

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            Whataboutism is when you bring up totally unrelated atrocities in to distract from the topic at hand.

            This directly relates to the exact same topic. That’s not whataboutism. That’s just pointing out hypocrisy.

            Also, to clarify, are you saying the US is committing genocide against its Black population?

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              If someone posts an article about black people in the U.S. (and there are many), would you write a comment asking sonething like, “How about the genicide in Xinjiang or Tibet”?

              I guess you wouldn’t. But you do it here. And this is what we understand by whataboutism and double standards.

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                I guarantee if there was an article about president Xi talking about Black people in the US the comments section would be full of comments about Xinjiang, but it’s only “whataboutism” when someone contrasts something against America. That should strike you as strange.

                Also, answer my question: are you saying the US is committing genocide against its Black population?

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                  guarantee if there was an article about president Xi talking about Black people in the US the comments section would be full of comments about Xinjiang, but it’s only “whataboutism”

                  That is also a whataboutism, just because it’s more widely accepted in the west doesn’t make it right.

                  Also, answer my question: are you saying the US is committing genocide against its Black population?

                  Lol you get called out for a whataboutism, give an example of why it’s wrong to utilize, and then double down on your whataboutism?

                  are you saying the US is committing genocide against its Black population?

                  It honestly depends on your definition of genocide. I can confidently say that America has participated in genocide against black Americans up until recent history, but academically I’m not sure if the current level of repression counts as an active genocide.

                  That being said, it doesn’t detract from the crimes against humanity currently being committed in xinjiang. Two nations can commit crimes against humanity, both should be condemned accordingly.