That’s complete bullshit and you know it. People that drive lifted trucks like that are called stupid rednecks that are compensating.
To be fair “stupid rednecks that are compensating” is different from “elitist who is forcing their lifestyle on everyone”.
I don’t think anyone outside of here says that about cyclists. And certainly no one thinks an imbecile in a big truck is an elitist. If anything they probably feel sorry for them that they think Olive Garden is a fancy Italian restaurant
Eh. Depends where you live maybe. I’ve definitely had plenty of conversations and overheard people with exactly this opinion about cyclists.
For my area the only cyclists anyone dislike are fuckers in packs cause theyre stupid and litigious as fuck. Seriously theyve tried sueing folks for “blocking roads” it was some dudes private road he had made so he could pull into his back yard via either street since his property spanned between the two. There was also an instace where a bunch of them plowed into a motorcycle pulling out of a parking lot, luckily a cop was across the street doing the same so his dashcam caught the guy at the front swerve into the motorcyclist.
So all in all individual bicyclists good, packs of them bad.
Olive Garden is the only authentic Italian place in the whole world everything else is a pale imitation
In my experience regarding pizzerias and Italian eateries, the more authentically Italian the food, the less impressed I am with it. I think we Americans like Chicago mobster food, not authentic stuff from Sicily.
Though a friend of mine did go to Italy and came back with literally dozens of kinds of olive oil, so it may depend on the region and the chef.
Idk it’s pretty elitist to say everyone should buy an expensive hunk of metal that runs on a expensive flammable substance just to get groceries I understand that there are some truck drivers that aren’t elitist but those blokes drive kai trucks and few and far between meanwhile the elitist f150 drivers are everywhere like June bugs
It’s a lot easier to impose your lifestyle on other people with a multiton death machine that eats children for breakfast.
Because one time they saw one run a red light and have held a violent grudge ever since…
When a car does it, it’s cute.
I get the point you’re trying to make but to think that a car driver would find another car driver jumping a red light “cute” is laughably naïve
laughably naïve
This just describes lemmy so well
I’ll take naïve Lemmy kids over violently abusive Reddit kids any day though
Fun fact. The average age of Lemmy users is higher than Reddit.
There is still many kids here, but Lemmy is much less “accessible” than Reddit meaning it’s less attractive to younger folks.
It’s a bit of a small culture shock when you compare how Lemmy users who have a job and family talk about their lifes versus Reddit users who obviously still go to school.
It’s a Simpson’s quote.
Did you honestly think I was being serious? I can’t see how you could think I was bring “laughably naïve” without being “laughably naïve” yourself. No offence intended.
Naïve doesn’t equal “Doesn’t watch cheaply-produced, low-quality comedy” though
The naïve part is you not understanding nuance or humour, nothing to do with a TV show.
You’ve used both your comments to allude to your superiority so I would suggest to you that you reconsider the toxicity. It’s not warranted.
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Jesus Christ.
Science direct and meta analysis of surveys 🤣
The definition of googling the result you desire.
Jesus Christ indeed.
There are dozens of studies with similar scopes and results. It’s obvious: Car drivers do not care about cyclists and many would prefer them gone.
Just look at some driver’s attitude about climate protests - here’s a sample from comments online:
There are humans who won’t be missed. Especially not terrorists [people blockading streets]. Therefore: Full throttle.
Simply let a semi roll over them. Those pests must be gone… preferably backwards, it’s easier to clean the underride guard.
Why “kill”? It’s self defence.
Those aren’t “humans”, they’re criminals making everyone very very angry. Kill them all, there’s too many people on the planet anyway it would help the climate too.
Ad infinitum
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Yea the elitist cyclist stereotype exists for a reason.
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Don’t be fragile
Oof
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You think people sit down in front of their computers to go to fuck bikes?
Yes: /r/FuckYourBicycle/ & /r/FuckBikes/
So yesterday I’m cycling and I come to a spot where the bike lane disappears for a quarter-mile segment, so I slot in at pace behind a shuttle bus (the kind that gives a lovely draft, so I won’t be slowing traffic down) to get me to the next point where there’s a bike lane.
Well, dude in the truck following that bus didn’t want me there, so not only does he get on his horn, he did the Seattle-classic maneuver of accelerating into the merge-space to prevent me merging, and when I came in anyways, tailgated aggressively to the point where he was an arm’s span off my wheel, while I was a bike-length behind that bus. We’re not going slow at this point, I’m pacing in the draft of the shuttle bus at traffic’s speed (something close to 30mph is my guess). For what it’s worth, I’m comfortable drafting like that (I race bikes, it’s common practice, it can be safely done) but being tailgated by a hostile driver in this situation was terrifying.
Now I can understand not liking it when someone merges in front of you (but in my defense, my lane was just ending and it will resume in ~400M and in his defense, maybe he doesn’t know that), but I somehow don’t think vehicular assault is an appropriate response. I can get him thinking it was rude for me to get into traffic in his way, but in the end jumping in the draft of that bus was the least-disruptive way for me to be on that road.
So pretty soon the shuttle reaches its destination and turns off to the right, and by that point we’ve reached the spot where the bike lane begins. I overtook on the left as it turned off and was in the bike lane on the right before man-baby in the truck was able to come through. In the end he wasn’t slowed down in any way, traffic wasn’t disrupted at all, and maybe he thought I was rude, but fuck that guy.
Yeah the reason people shit on bicycles is we inconveniently insist on existing in spaces where accommodating our use is often an afterthought. I don’t like the spots where the bike lane isn’t either, but getting anywhere involves stitching up segments of bike lane with segments of that shit and when I traverse those things I go to the effort to get up to the speed limit to do it- and 99% of drivers are really good about sharing and giving space, it’s that other 1% that consistently seem to think driving like an asshole will teach us a lesson or something.
I don’t have the answer, but about 10 years ago I was invited to go on a group ride. I’m more of a commuter, but have done longer rides. Anyway, the behavior of the folks I was with made me never want to ride with others again. It was terrible! I think that is why pedal bikes get lumped into this scenario. You could replace the pickup with a Porsche and I think it would be the same scene.
Same phenomenon with motorcycles, I can’t go on rides with more than two other riders and we need to be able to communicate via intercom. People act like idiots to impress each other when the group gets big enough.
Were they flatulent? Or making fun of the local real estate? Did they play practical jokes on one another? What was with their behaviour??
Haha no, nothing like that. We were riding on a narrow, windy, river road in the mountains. No ability for cars to pass, but many places for slow moving vehicles to move o er and not even have to stop! Essentially, they wanted the cars to share the road with them but they wouldn’t share with the cars. Most people in that area don’t care to pause, but after passing multiple pullouts they can become irritable.
I know this is fuckcars but that particular situation was, for me, untenable.
I personally pull over when there’s a line of cars behind me and there is space, even if I have to stop for a moment.
But the general view that cyclists are assholes if they don’t pull over for the convenience of car drivers grinds my gears.
Cyclists aren’t lesser traffic users, they have the exact same right to keep moving and take up the space they need on the road.Sure, but slower vehicles, may they be cars or farm equipment or whatever else they may be (including bikes), can be dangerous to themselves and others by not letting traffic (that obeys the speed limit) through.
No, I didn’t get this from that comment at all. As a bicyclist attempting to courteously share the road with others …
– I will usually try to leave room for faster traffic to pass
– I will take the whole lane, preventing passing, if necessary for my safety
— I will also pull off when safe, if I find I am being an obstruction to faster traffic
That’s all true, whether I’m cycling, driving a tractor, or there’s something wrong with my car so I’m trying to limp along to a mechanic
I think you captured best what I was thinking. I have also driven farm machinery quite often on this road, and it just the same. In both cases I will use the lane for as long as needed, but also in both cases I will pull over to allow others to pass. It takes no longer for me but affects them much more if I don’t.
Many states have slow moving vehicle laws that require them pull over and allow othe vehicles to pass if there are 3 or more behind them. I don’t care if you’re on 2, 4, 6, or 18 wheels. If you are obstructing traffic, get out of the way. I don’t have the right to arbitrarily close down a road to play tag football, hold a party, or anything else, I have to get special permits to do so. I even have to get permits to move very slow/large loads by semi-truck. But some bikers think that just because there are more than 2 of them, they get to organize a rolling road block. To avoid shitting on just bikers, this happens with farm equipment and many other things too.
In addition, most bikes and farm equipment don’t pay road taxes. The fuel for farm equipment is specifically exempted from pay tax on their fuel and bikes obviously don’t use fuel. Here is a golden rule I use when riding a bike, a motorcycle, a 4 wheeler, or driving a car, “Don’t be a dick.”Bikes shouldn’t have to pay road tax because they don’t cause wear on the roads, and the roads aren’t built for them. Road tax doesn’t come close to covering the cost of roads, the rest comes from general tax, so in reality it’s bikes subsidizing cars.
Bikes aren’t riding in the middle of the lane just for the sake of it, there’s nothing worse than having a car riding up your ass. They’re riding in the middle of the lane because of visibility and to prevent unsafe passing. Once it’s safe to pass, they will pull over and let you pass. They aren’t “obstructing traffic” by riding along as fast, safe and courteously as they can, even if why they’re doing it isn’t always obvious to you.
Throw away bikes AND cars. We need motorcycle infrastructure
/s…unless…?
If only those few stroke motors they weren’t so noisy 😭
No. I’ve been to South East Asia. It’s not as fun as you’re imagining (in jest or otherwise)
To be fair, trucks are regarded as egomobiles in the municipal areas of California if they’re all shiny and are obviously not used for heavy work.
In the 1990s and aughts, bicyclists had a bad reputation in San Francisco for messengers being inconsiderate and for bikers being a voting bloc. I don’t know if they are since mass gentrification.
Out in the redder suburbs, all the vehicles are trucks and the women are blond unless they’re behind the Jamba counter. And those shiny trucks frequently have truck-nuts. In those towns, they joke about running bikers off road, and might actually do it if they’re drunk enough.
“Why does this trend I’m talking about not exist?”
The meme is shitting on both owners of pickup trucks and bicycle owners and basically saying that there both hostile elitist community’s and if the comment section of this sub is anything to go by I would say the meme is correct
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Touch grass asshat.
Errr. Have you been on the Internet? People shit on cars and trucks regularly.
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What bike is that?
It looks like a gazelle. Not sure of the model. Mine looks very much like it. They’re great city bikes.
