A few years ago, the Lemmy Developers decided to keep their political views on lemmygrad while keeping lemmy.ml more neutral. Now they are banning users who are critical of their actions and bigotry.

Anti-Tankie posts may put you at risk of being banned from commenting and posting on the lemmy.ml instance.

  • goat@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    9 months ago

    The screenshot? Modlogs are publically available, you can check to see that the lemmy.ml admins, the developers, blocked meanwhileongrad

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      9 months ago

      So…they didn’t block or ban users based on that screenshot. They blocked a fairly hostile community that exists purely to attack other lemmy users. You sign up to an instance. Not to a community inside an instance.

      And key words being they blocked a community. They can’t even close that community, because the link shows it’s on sh.itjust.works, not on lemmy.ml or lemmygrad.

      Plus to be fair, there’s been a few posts linked where people in that community (and the hexbear one) are just trying to get banned so they can make a post saying they were banned.

      edit: Also why didn’t you just post this on meanwhileongrad? Why is it so important to you that lemmy.ml users see the threads?

      • goat@sh.itjust.worksOP
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        9 months ago

        To attack other Lemmy users? Both Lemmygrad and Hexbear are defederated from the majority of the fediverse. They both also require a vetting process before you post there. And hostile? Yeah, probably towards those who deny genocides and glorify violent atrocities – I think anyone would be hostile towards such hatred.

        You don’t see the issue of the Developers blocking only one specific community for no reason? You don’t think that’s counter-productive towards what Lemmy.ml strives to achieve, which is diversity and varied opinions?

        Can you link any of those posts of users brigading lemmygrad or hexbear? I take that quite seriously and will stomp out any who try that.

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          I can’t, because I block lemmygrad, hexbear, and I’m pretty sure i’ve already blocked that hexbear harassing community (or at least it doesn’t show up as often)

          The people purposely antagonizing people are just toxic in a different way. I can at most tell you the last topic I saw.

          It was basically someone posting a screenshot of them getting banned, and it the reasons they gave showed they said “You can’t post this, mods will ban you”. Post they were replying to was not banned. So they were basically discouraging people from talking about things the mods weren’t actually moderating.

          I just feel like you can come up with plenty of reasons to hate tankies without purposely going into their communities and poking the bear.

          edit: turns out it was a deleted post that was put on asklemmy. All i’m able to tell is who made that post since it just says deleted by moderator now.

          • goat@sh.itjust.worksOP
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            9 months ago

            You can still access these communities despite blocking them. If you’re claiming that users from anti-tankie communities are deliberately going into Hexbear and Lemmygrad (which again, is difficult considering their vetting process), please back up that claim, since that’s serious and I don’t want to be nurturing that type of behaviour. So if have any evidence of these troublesome users, please share it, even DM it if you feel the need.

            It was basically someone posting a screenshot of them getting banned, and it the reasons they gave showed they said “You can’t post this, mods will ban you”. Post they were replying to was not banned. So they were basically discouraging people from talking about things the mods weren’t actually moderating.

            What posts are these?

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              9 months ago

              I can only get you the thread number because if I try to go to the link all the comments are scrubbed

              lemmy.world/t/490214/Why-are-hexbear-mods-such-petty-little-tyrants

              It was federated to kbin so I don’t really know how to look it up any better than that.

              edit: I do also want to bring up one other point though

              You don’t see the issue of the Developers blocking only one specific community for no reason? You don’t think that’s counter-productive towards what Lemmy.ml strives to achieve, which is diversity and varied opinions?

              Isn’t this lemmy.world? I always thought lemmy.ml was more just the first instance, not the one aiming towards diversity. I’d usually recommend someone to lemmy.world if they wanted just a general server.

              • goat@sh.itjust.worksOP
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                9 months ago

                Your link isn’t working. Can you try a screenshot instead? I don’t recognise this post.

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                  It doesn’t work. How many times do I have to say this? It was a moderated thread and is deleted. The posts are gone at this point.

                  I don’t go purposely following groups to harass them so I talked with this person in this thread and moved on. I didn’t screenshot them. Just like i’m posting here because it was on the front page of kbin. The most I could ever give you is the comment saved that I made towards that user.

                  • goat@sh.itjust.worksOP
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                    9 months ago

                    I recommend you edit your posts that it was not MeanwhileOnGrad that posted that kind of content. Do you want me to respond to your edits or nah?