Yeah it doesn’t work because resources are scarce. Then on a national scale only a few people have control over these scarce national resources. Which gives these people too much power. And often the people in control are sociopaths especially if they came in to power via a revolution aka a violent coup.
No, it really doesn’t. If you have decided that only a few people get access to what they need, then you were never even attempting communism in the first place.
It’s such fucking basic logic that I’m surprised this meme has persisted through the Cold War til today.
If you have a cake recipe that tells you to use vanilla creme, and you instead use shit, that does not mean cakes cannot be made without tasting like shit.
I understand that. Let’s say everyone has access. Suddenly someone decides they want it all. Someone polices the amount people can take. Then they have the access and the process repeats
This was there same system imposed in communes. At scale, the threat of public shame is no longer enough
Okay, so people will always take more than they should. We see this time and again with quite literally every single power system. What do you propose we do to make sure everyone gets their share?
Why are you asking me to repeat myself? And also, why do you have so little faith in democracy? Bourgeois democracy, sure, but actual democracy of the people, with no bureaucracy?
So everyone decides who gets what and when. What if you’re not really liked in your community? Personally I don’t really have faith in humanity in general
Yeah it doesn’t work because resources are scarce. Then on a national scale only a few people have control over these scarce national resources. Which gives these people too much power. And often the people in control are sociopaths especially if they came in to power via a revolution aka a violent coup.
Then you have failed to implement communism. Why are you only giving a few people access?
What’s your fix? The same problem always crops up
No, it really doesn’t. If you have decided that only a few people get access to what they need, then you were never even attempting communism in the first place.
It’s such fucking basic logic that I’m surprised this meme has persisted through the Cold War til today.
If you have a cake recipe that tells you to use vanilla creme, and you instead use shit, that does not mean cakes cannot be made without tasting like shit.
Get it?
I understand that. Let’s say everyone has access. Suddenly someone decides they want it all. Someone polices the amount people can take. Then they have the access and the process repeats
This was there same system imposed in communes. At scale, the threat of public shame is no longer enough
Nah
If you set aside a class of “protectors”, you’re just asking for trouble.
Okay, so people will always take more than they should. We see this time and again with quite literally every single power system. What do you propose we do to make sure everyone gets their share?
Democratic centralism.
Why are you asking me to repeat myself? And also, why do you have so little faith in democracy? Bourgeois democracy, sure, but actual democracy of the people, with no bureaucracy?
So everyone decides who gets what and when. What if you’re not really liked in your community? Personally I don’t really have faith in humanity in general
Just ban corruption /s