• It’s also a case where the communist movement gained power well within the bounds of established electoral processes. And Cybersyn directly addressed many of the historical shortcomings of central planning. It’s almost a caricature of how ingenuine capitalist critiques of communist movements are. We get it right by their own claimed standards and they get brazenly couped by western capital anyway.

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                  “Howling holes in the fabric of society through which millions of souls are dragged screaming into the void every annum” just doesnt have the same sleekness to it

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                Cybersyn wasn’t an attempt at doing full central planning, it was a means of distributing decisionmaking and information gathering about the economy and using a computer system to aggregate and coordinate information across a distributed network. The actual work of figuring out how and what to produce was very much in the hands of humans. Having more computing power now just means better data and better predictions, but Cybersyn was never meant to be a robot central planner. A computer will never be able to do central planning, period. A computer can only help augment and coordinate human decisionmaking.

                Also, all economies are planned.

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                    You vastly underestimate the amount of central planning that already happens inside of large institutions and organizations. If planning didn’t work, Wal-Mart wouldn’t exist. The question is how you do planning that isn’t based on extracting profit from workers, which is a political problem, not a practical one.