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PARIS—“Do I really have to answer that question? I’m certainly not voting for the person leading the Republican Party.” That was the response of communist icon Angela Davis when a journalist asked about her intentions for the 2024 U.S. election at the festival of l’Humanité, the newspaper of the French Communist Party, this weekend.
“When Obama was elected, that was a very important victory,” Davis said when asked about the advance of Black political figures in the U.S. “It was not a victory in relation to what he actually accomplished during his presidency, but rather what was significant was that young people organized and accomplished something that was considered to be impossible.
“When we engage in electoral politics, it can’t be just because a particular individual is running for office,” Davis told the crowd, “it is to enlarge the terrain of mass struggle, to guarantee a space for the trade union movement to win victories, for the women’s movement to win victories, for people of color to win victories, for working and poor people to win victories.
“That’s why we urge people to vote, isn’t it?” she asked before turning to the audience with a smile and saying, “You know that here in France for sure.”
Referencing the struggle to save democracy from Macron and Le Pen, Davis said of the French people, “You—especially you—understand the necessity of pushing back against the ultra-right.”
Davis emphasized the historical importance of Harris being the Democratic candidate. “Black women are so marginalized in society that Kamala’s candidacy means something spiritually to Black women.
“But when you reach that level,” nominee of one of the two major parties, “you have to be the face of capitalism, militarism, and neo-colonialism.” Harris, Davis warned, “has told us she will be that face, that she will build the most lethal military apparatus ever.”
As dangerous as that reality is, however, Davis said, “There’s more to think about: Harris is not a fascist, and the other person running for president is.” That’s why she said there’s “no question about who progressive people should vote for” in the U.S. election. Trump, whom she never mentioned by name, must be defeated, but getting Harris into office isn’t the end of the road.
“It’s not just about electing Kamala Harris,” Davis again said, “it’s about opening space for those of us who are more radical than Kamala Harris to put the pressure for change, especially in the first place when it comes to the genocide in Palestine.”
When the black panther goat becomes a “vote for genocide” lib 
womp womp I actually liked Freedom is a Constant Struggle as well
“When Obama was elected, that was a very important victory,” Davis said when asked about the advance of Black political figures in the U.S. “It was not a victory in relation to what he actually accomplished during his presidency,
So it was categorically NOT a victory in any way, shape or form, admitting your point is fallacious doesn’t magically transform the point into something incisive
but rather what was significant was that young people organized and accomplished something that was considered to be impossible.
lmao this is just pure ignorance or willful blindless, Obama literally dismantled the organizing apparatus of the democratic party after his victory in 2008, grassroot operations were shuttered and entire swing state organizing bodies disappeared overnight
It was one of the main reasons the dems suffered so many mid term and state loses during Obama’s tenure, and part of the reason they lost 2016
it’s about opening space for those of us who are more radical than Kamala Harris to put the pressure for change, especially in the first place when it comes to the genocide in Palestine.”
Biden 2020 ass dialogue re-use, get new lines shitlibs
“But when you reach that level,” nominee of one of the two major parties, “you have to be the face of capitalism, militarism, and neo-colonialism.” Harris, Davis warned, “has told us she will be that face, that she will build the most lethal military apparatus ever.”
And then next time we have to
for the next face of capitalism, militarism, and neo-colonialism so that the most lethal military apparatus ever doesn’t get placed in the hands of the next fascist!That’s why we urge people to vote, isn’t it?” she asked before turning to the audience with a smile and saying, “You know that here in France for sure.”
How is she not saying this sarcastically? How can this not be received sarcastically by French communists whose elected party just got ratfucked?
You either die based, or live long enough to become cringe.
People really don’t know this is who she’s always been since '91.
what happened?
Elements of the new left attempted a take over of the old party in an act of perfomative theatrics over wanting to become a social democratic formation then split the party when they got voted down.
Tenure
We can push them left.
Put them to the right of the cliff and then push them left.
Champ! Sport!
Adolf Hitler doing car videos, yelling at the camera about how the other fascist is worse
Honestly it takes constant work to not get sucked into the lib hole because it’s just so dominant in every part of our culture. I struggle with it too.
Also, the fact that there’s no actual left party with any sort of popular base makes it hard to avoid the gravitational pull of the most “left” party allowed to us by capital. People want to support an actual organization without doing third party crank shit, it’s a hard position
i don’t find it that difficult. im completely checked out of electoralism because it’s not going to fix anything ever.
Right, but the movements and organizations capable of fixing anything don’t really exist yet, so organizing outside of electoralism requires a level of faith in “the party that is to come”, which is hard for most people (even well-read Marxists!)
The only thing keeping me going is my experience dealing with exponential growth. The movements that do exist might not seem to be growing fast enough, but I know that at a critical moment the exponential growth will pay off, and they will rapidly begin to meet the scale of the problem. But most people looking at socialist and working class movements in the US right now might conclude that it’s hopeless, and that trying to create anything new will take too long.
All that yapping when a simple “Black faces in high places are not gonna save us” quote from Ruha Benjamin and her whole political project collapses in an instant
Capitalism, militarism, and neo-colonialism
Fascism
I seriously don’t understand anymore what liberals think fascism even is if not this. And I used to be lib myself.
Referencing the struggle to save democracy from Macron and Le Pen, Davis said of the French people, “You—especially you—understand the necessity of pushing back against the ultra-right.”
yeah and what happened? electoralism got a right wing PM appointed by Macron. this is pathetic garbage, Davis really fell off. no Marxist should be using “save democracy” rhetoric about a bourgeois state. just worthless
I am completely seething rn.
Don’t vote for people Huey would have shot, Angela.
Don’t vote for people who Huey would have shot, don’t vote for people who would have Huey shot.
It’s pretty simple. How does she not grasp this?
She was drunk on the Obamalaid, saying that the election of Obama was part of the “black radical tradition”.
https://www.blackagendareport.com/content/angela-davis-lost-her-mind-over-obama?page=4
Angela Davis says that Barack Obama is a man who identifies with the Black radical tradition.
In alternate universe that was an Onion headline.
“When Obama was elected, that was a very important victory,” Davis said when asked about the advance of Black political figures in the U.S. “It was not a victory in relation to what he actually accomplished during his presidency, but rather what was significant was that young people organized and accomplished something that was considered to be impossible.”
To what end? To continue the brutalization of Africa, South America, the Pacific, etc. under the new shining sun of a Black president?
“When we engage in electoral politics, it can’t be just because a particular individual is running for office,” Davis told the crowd, “it is to enlarge the terrain of mass struggle, to guarantee a space for the trade union movement to win victories, for the women’s movement to win victories, for people of color to win victories, for working and poor people to win victories."
Funny she should say that Kamala L3Harris would enlarge the terrain of mass struggle. Maybe starting WW3 and helping Israel annex Lebanon and Syria are enlarging the terrain of mass struggle? Lenin told us to turn the imperialist conflict into class conflict, and Davis is being incredibly myopic not to see how the imperialist rhetoric here does the opposite, distracting the American masses from their exploitation by aligning them against America’s geopolitical enemies, the workers of exploited periphery nations.
It’s shameful that someone so respected is missing the forest for the trees so hard. Kill your heroes.
To what end? To continue the brutalization of Africa, South America, the Pacific, etc. under the new shining sun of a Black president?
Don’t forget that Obama wiped out nearly half of the generational wealth of black communities in America overnight when he chose to bail out Wall Street by evicting 9 million American (predominantly black and Hispanic) families and transferred their properties to private capital ownership, one of the single largest transfer of wealth from the working class to the top 1% in American history. The wealth that black communities had accumulated over decades all ended up in the hands of private capital overnight thanks to Obama.
Surely Kamala wouldn’t do the same thing again and let 2026 midwest pogroms render the Haitian diaspora homeless
“bluh bluh bluh Trump would have made them twice as homeless!!1” —some liberal worm begging for their life in 2027
Pfft, they already think that Haitian immigrants are pet eating savages, why would they even bother to act like the pogroms are a negative?
this is after the pogroms are complete when it becomes acceptable to feel bad in the past tense. like the native genocide in the americas. liberals are against every pogrom except the current one
I was just about to mention this. Median wealth of black Americans by 2053 and so… Prognosis not good.
for more on this: How Obama Destroyed Black Wealth | Jackoffbin
After the crisis, the percentage of black homeowners with negative equity exploded by twenty-fold, from 0.7 percent to 14.2 percent — and unlike white families, did not reach its peak until 2013.
What insanity.
I kinda agree! Electing Harris will make the world a worse place than it would otherwise be, which will force people to engage in more radical struggle!
Angela “Accelerationist” Davis
