• Inui [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    22 days ago

    Vegan cats being the thing that tears .world apart is really funny because I’ve seen it irl and wouldn’t be surprised if ya’ll already had that struggle session here.

    Not trying to start that debate here if not, but among most vegan groups I’ve been part of, many people had cats for years before adopting a vegan lifestyle in every other way, so it becomes a “don’t ask, don’t tell” situation. Otherwise, you get into endless arguments about how the cat havers aren’t really vegan. But the non-cat havers offer no real individual solutions and just tip toe around the idea that the cat haver should kill them to balance out the moral calculus, or give them to someone else to wash their hands of the issue while not materially affecting anything.

    If you ever want to destroy a vegan community, ask if you should feed your cat a vegan diet or more generally about taking care of meat-eating animals at all.

    Doubly funny, in an absurd way, is that .world will so fiercely advocate for their kitties, but ignore the deaths of humans that their favorite politicians are causing.

    • Gay_Tomato [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netOP
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      21 days ago

      Hexbear had a nearly site destroying struggle session that took a while to rebuild from after vegancirclejerk was lifeboated. It wouldn’t surprise me if that was the powder keg.

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        21 days ago

        Nah I was there for it, it was 100% omnivores just being giant dickheads who saw themselves as the furthest left/most moral/whatever the fuck people being confronted with the gigantic moral black hole of how they enjoy the fruit of mass torture & murder. Eventually they couldn’t handle the heat so had to run crying to the mods. There were also the usual spurious accusations of vegans being anti-indigenous levied by non-indigenous people. Truly a deeply embarrassing episode that omnis here do their best to forget, just like they do their best to forget how if they witnessed the process of their meals being made for more than five minutes they would get lifelong PTSD. It’s fine to inflict that damage on the colonized people who work in the meatpacking plants though.

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        21 days ago

        has anyone ever done a writeup about that? I see posts mentioning it and when I look stuff up I see posts on c/vegan that were very clearly part of it but it’s kind of unclear how it went from dooming on c/vegan to the way the site is today