Disrespecting art and religion seems a little different than telling 2 people they can’t get married.
Like one is potentially offensive on an emotional level, the other is trying to tell people how to live their lives. You don’t have to agree if you’d like to stay out of the conversation…… so, they seem kinda different? Don’t they?
Nobody is telling you not to enjoy your religion just because people make fun of it.
Ok so I can make fun of them too then ? Because I don’t care if two dudes or chicks get married either, but now you’re saying it’s ok for me to laugh at that yes ?
I’m pretty neutral on most things. Grew up in a blue state been (and enjoyed) drag shows, exposed to all this shit before it was ‘popular’ and kicked it and hung out with my gay peeps. (I’m straight) I was around it all the time.
It was never a big deal. The fact of the matter is, you respect ppl and treat ppl the way they want to be treated.
I’m also agnostic. But if you’re religious of which ever kind, I’m going to be respectful. It doesn’t matter. It’s not always about YOU all the time.
And that’s what this ‘movement’ disregards openly. “You’re Christian!? WELL FIGGIDY FUUUUUCK YOU!!! I’M THIS!”
When no one even asked. Or even cares for that matter.
I’m constantly seeing this from this movement:
Christians: A ok to disrespect, always all the time 💯
Lgbt…: ALWAYS respect us no matter what under EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE.
Being evil to either side is wrong, that’s common sense. But here, yall pick and choose who deserves respect and who doesn’t. That’s what ppl have an issue with. That’s what I have an issue with.
The lgbt groups seem to have lost their sense of humour a bit, I think it’s mostly because they’re feeling attacked? But I’m not sure.
I think the problem is that it’s becoming harder to tell what’s “good humour” vs an attack. The lines have become very blurry, and there are legitimate attacks happening on their existence (the overturn of roe v Wade has opened the door for many legal challenges to the gay community)
Soooooo……. A significant portion of the populace is still very “anti-gay” to the point of legitimate threat…… so yeah, they’re more sensitive than they used to be. The more real the threat is, the harder it is to decipher the jokes.
I don’t have an answer, but I’m steering clear of many gay jokes that used to be “well meaning” just because I understand why they might think it’s not funny anymore.
It feels like telling “dead baby” jokes to someone that’s had a miscarriage. Dark humour is fine, but context matters.
……also, christianity is not under any sort of threat at all, so that explains why it’s always okay to make fun of christians. they ARE the threat lol
I don’t think we’re gunna fine middle ground here Mr. Kaboom in regards to the other guy.
You know what my point is so I’m just explaining it for everyone else. The point is it doesn’t matter who you are or every lifestyle you have, you respect others and treat them the way you want to be treated.
They’re argument is consistent with “You’re allowed to pick on groups who fall into a right wing category because they don’t agree with my favorite politics”
If you want respect, then be respectful to others regardless what you believe. That goes for both lgbt and Christians in this case. One doesn’t get to have respect while you shit on the other.
However, orthodox tenets of the #Christian faith are being ostracized from mainstream western society. The West has become against some of the things that #Christianity is for.
@ArbiterXero@realcaseyrollins Against abortion, gay marriage, sex out side of marriage, blasphemy to God, I.e. mocking.
and all forms of Slavery. oh, drunkenness and recreational drug use.
The government tells people how to live their lives all the time. Religion is a Western concept. Religion is not found in the Qur’an or the Greek Bible. Keep your deviant behavior to yourself.
Disrespecting art and religion seems a little different than telling 2 people they can’t get married.
Like one is potentially offensive on an emotional level, the other is trying to tell people how to live their lives. You don’t have to agree if you’d like to stay out of the conversation…… so, they seem kinda different? Don’t they?
Nobody is telling you not to enjoy your religion just because people make fun of it.
Ok so I can make fun of them too then ? Because I don’t care if two dudes or chicks get married either, but now you’re saying it’s ok for me to laugh at that yes ?
Yes!
As long as you don’t use slurs, similar to being unable to use religious slurs.
For example, my brother in law and I always joke that he should have married me instead of my sister, since we get along so well.
Here’s the thing.
I’m pretty neutral on most things. Grew up in a blue state been (and enjoyed) drag shows, exposed to all this shit before it was ‘popular’ and kicked it and hung out with my gay peeps. (I’m straight) I was around it all the time.
It was never a big deal. The fact of the matter is, you respect ppl and treat ppl the way they want to be treated.
I’m also agnostic. But if you’re religious of which ever kind, I’m going to be respectful. It doesn’t matter. It’s not always about YOU all the time.
And that’s what this ‘movement’ disregards openly. “You’re Christian!? WELL FIGGIDY FUUUUUCK YOU!!! I’M THIS!”
When no one even asked. Or even cares for that matter.
I’m constantly seeing this from this movement:
Christians: A ok to disrespect, always all the time 💯
Lgbt…: ALWAYS respect us no matter what under EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE.
Being evil to either side is wrong, that’s common sense. But here, yall pick and choose who deserves respect and who doesn’t. That’s what ppl have an issue with. That’s what I have an issue with.
So I actually mostly agree with this.
The lgbt groups seem to have lost their sense of humour a bit, I think it’s mostly because they’re feeling attacked? But I’m not sure.
I think the problem is that it’s becoming harder to tell what’s “good humour” vs an attack. The lines have become very blurry, and there are legitimate attacks happening on their existence (the overturn of roe v Wade has opened the door for many legal challenges to the gay community)
Soooooo……. A significant portion of the populace is still very “anti-gay” to the point of legitimate threat…… so yeah, they’re more sensitive than they used to be. The more real the threat is, the harder it is to decipher the jokes.
I don’t have an answer, but I’m steering clear of many gay jokes that used to be “well meaning” just because I understand why they might think it’s not funny anymore.
It feels like telling “dead baby” jokes to someone that’s had a miscarriage. Dark humour is fine, but context matters.
……also, christianity is not under any sort of threat at all, so that explains why it’s always okay to make fun of christians. they ARE the threat lol
Are you sure christiananity isnt under threat? Sure, theyre the big dogs, but that doesnt mean they arent threatened
Alright, I’ll bite, what’s the threat?
I don’t think we’re gunna fine middle ground here Mr. Kaboom in regards to the other guy.
You know what my point is so I’m just explaining it for everyone else. The point is it doesn’t matter who you are or every lifestyle you have, you respect others and treat them the way you want to be treated.
They’re argument is consistent with “You’re allowed to pick on groups who fall into a right wing category because they don’t agree with my favorite politics”
If you want respect, then be respectful to others regardless what you believe. That goes for both lgbt and Christians in this case. One doesn’t get to have respect while you shit on the other.
@Kaboom @ArbiterXero Framing it like that makes it seem like #Christianity is something that could possibly die. It isn’t.
However, orthodox tenets of the #Christian faith are being ostracized from mainstream western society. The West has become against some of the things that #Christianity is for.
Which things are Christianity “for” that the west is “against”?
@ArbiterXero @realcaseyrollins Against abortion, gay marriage, sex out side of marriage, blasphemy to God, I.e. mocking.
and all forms of Slavery. oh, drunkenness and recreational drug use.
Love the sinner, Hate the sin.
The government tells people how to live their lives all the time. Religion is a Western concept. Religion is not found in the Qur’an or the Greek Bible. Keep your deviant behavior to yourself.
The world has become divisive enough that I honestly can’t tell if this is sarcastic or not, and/or what the message is. Hahaha