tweet in which jon points out the obvious and libs get mad

excerpt from a Libbrainworms:

Jon gives his best impression of a 14 year old tankie in this video.

The following is true simultaneously:

  1. It is appropriate to critique US foreign policy, it’s actually necessary in a free society.
  2. Some bad actions are worse than others. Iraq wasn’t annexed into the 51st state, as opposed to Crimea, Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia.
  3. Not all foreign policy decisions are zero sum, it’s possible for both parties to derive a benefit from an agreement (US and Philippines for example).

what a great deal

amerikkka i receive Military bases and access to your natural resources

you philippines-cool received: a US backed dictatorship

  1. The world does not revolve around the US, people in the Kremlin have agency.
  2. The Russian invasion of Ukraine and PRC threats of a Taiwan invasion are not about US foreign policy, they are a response to internal Russian and PRC pressures.
  3. Not every policy decision is based on trade and natural resources, those some of the variables in a long list of strategic considerations.
    • humbletightband@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      15 days ago

      So far nobody talks about plundering Russia, unless Putin attacks the Baltic states.

      But TBH, given how the West implements sanctions, this plundering would look like they’re shooting in their leg.

      • Nobody’s outright talking plunder but friend, what do you think the ultimate outcome is here?

        Libs won’t stop until Russia either balkanizes into a shattered Libya-style failed state that the West can gobble up piecemeal under the guise of helping them recover, or the Russian government changes to an explicitly pro-EU one that empties its coffers in a show of newfound solidarity

        For the West, there is no world in which Russia will be allowed to exist as a sovereign state. The end goal, full stop, is to plunder it, even if that’s not the stated goal