I’ve lived in a big city for years now. Never seen anybody get mugged, or shot, or carjacked, despite doing activist work that often has me visiting poor minority neighborhoods.

The only time I ever really felt uneasy was when I had to walk alone at night through a neighborhood where all the businesses had bars on the windows. Worst thing that happened was a couple of people asking me for money, and they didn’t give me any shit when I said I didn’t carry cash.

But any time I visit the small town where I grew up there’s always someone or another acting like I came back from a fucking warzone lmao

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    “Try that in a small town” oh you mean the suburbs where everyone is alienated and afraid and paranoid of their neighbor so they shoot a kid who’s basketball lands on their front yard? Yum, community spirit!

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    I’ll never 4 get the time my boomer boss told us he was going to bring his gun with him the next time he rode his Harley through the city because he was scared. Same city we routinely drunkenly stumble through, and dude you’re a 300lb man on a motorcycle who is going to fuck with you? (He was an instigator in every situation that ever befouled him)

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    One time we were explaining to a relative how a storm had downed some tree branches and they implied that our urban trees were just weaker compared to their country trees lmao

    Smh at the rootless cosmopolitanism of these city trees

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      I used to live in an area where trees were planted too close to the curb and street, so 50ish years later the trees got huge and had a very lopsided root system that would knock them straight into the road. Every year a few go down and wreck the overhead powerlines.

      This was firmly a suburb though.

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    It’s not even cities. There are small towns near me that are poorer and more Latino/Black than the surrounding area, and conservatives (and liberals lol) will routinely refuse to go there.

    My friend needed something from a cvs once, and I said oh I’ll drive you to the one in [town], and he goes bro, it’s 9pm, I don’t want to get shot. Like holy shit I cannot imagine having these brainworms.

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    They fear what they don’t know.

    A guy got murdered in his car near a place I was working in Miami. I saw a guy pee on a burger king in LA. I saw a young woman’s coochie in a park in San Francisco. I met some die hard TЯ卐m₽ supporters in Pensilvania. My father almost got car jacked in Chicago.

    Shit happens all over the place all the time. More shit happens where there are more people.

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      It’s more than just not knowing - a lot of popular media feeds the idea that cities are all warzones directly in to their heads, making up whatever details are needed to keep up the narrative. The average chud lives in a comprehensive media bubble telling them that everything is NYC 1970s bad but worse, all the time, when the exact opposite is true - Cities are safer than they’ve ever been in the US, overall violent crime rates continue to fall, Cities are generally not the most violent places in America by a good margin.

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      A guy got murdered in his car near a place I was working in Miami. I saw a guy pee on a burger king in LA.

      I’m sorry but the juxtaposition of these two made me chuckle

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    The fear of the cities actually traces its roots back to the establishment of the (overwhelmingly) white suburban “middle class”, which was a product of Jim Crow era legislation and laws along with redlining and white flight.

    I have a whole bit about how this happened, if anyone is interested in hearing more about it.

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        Alright here goes:

        So at the end of WWII you have this influx of veterans returning to the US.

        This posed a social problem that, in a post-WWI country, was often disastrous. The early proto-fascist and pro-fascist paramilitaries that wracked the Weimar Republic and helped bring the Nazis to power and to intimate/suppress the opponents of the Nazis (along with terrorizing German Jews etc.) were made up by a majority of returned WWI veterans who were pretty fucked by the war and often struggled to find work and reintegrate into a post-war society, although they knew how to conduct war and they were roaming the streets, so it created a powderkeg of malcontents. These WWI veterans across Europe caused a great deal of political strife throughout the interwar period.

        I haven’t read any sources where the US government was specifically aware of the political problems posed by veterans from WWI failing to find work and to reintegrate into society, thus causing political strife, but it’d be hard to imagine that they weren’t aware of this and that thus that their policies towards WWII veterans weren’t influenced by trying to pacify and neutralise this potential political problem.

        So WWII veterans return to the US and the US creates the GI Bill which was a massive welfare program designed to bolster the US economy domestically while also providing for the needs of the WWII veterans.

        A large part of the bill was aimed at providing low-interest rate, no down payment home loans to veterans and the funding preferenced new builds.

        This created a massive subsidy for the construction industry and it was the Levitt brothers who used this influx of funding to create low cost, mass produced housing outside of the city areas, the most famous of which was Levittown town (humble folks, those Levitt brothers eh?)

        This was essentially the advent of suburbia.

        Because of the low cost that housing loans were provided at, it was actually cheaper for veterans to buy new houses in the suburbs that were springing up than it was to live in the city.

        Although, this is post-war America we’re talking about so obviously this is when Jim Crow laws were still gripping the country and, of course, the GI Bill catered to the political interests of those who supported Jim Crow.

        Effectively, what this meant was that the GI Bill massively preferenced white veterans and it actively and passively discouraged non-white veterans from benefitting from the bill.

        As one example of this, in the New York and northern New Jersey suburbs 67,000 mortgages were insured by the G.I. Bill, but fewer than 100 were taken out by non-whites.

        So, basically this was economic apartheid.

        Not only do we have the creation of the suburbs and all the car-dependence that comes with it happening right there, we also see the emergence of the so-called “middle class” which was overwhelmingly white in its makeup because this housing freed up disposable income and it fostered intergenerational wealth from the investment into property that suburbia allowed for.

        Although people of colour languished behind and were excluded from property ownership through the design of this bill and redlining, so they tended to stay stuck in inner city slums which cost a lot more for housing than a cheapz subsidised home loan in the suburbs offered.

        Over time there was a strong push to “clean up” the inner city and to eradicate slums. You see these massive housing projects developing from the 1930s as cities became gentrified, and perhaps the most famous example of public housing projects is the much-maligned Pruitt-Igoe project (which has a fantastic documentary on it called The Pruitt-Igoe Myth.)

        These projects concentrated poverty and “criminality” (if you’ll excuse the shitty term for the sake of my vain attempt at brevity here) due to complex issues of economic and social exclusion, intergenerational trauma, drug/alcohol abuse etc. and they also were extremely exploitative. Some residents of Pruitt-Igoe were spending up to 3/4s of their income exclusively on housing, which perpetrated the cycle of poverty for black Americans.

        So you have this dual effect of the middle class emerging and creating generational opportunity and wealth in the nascent (white) middle class while people of colour are excluded, stuck in expensive slums, and then they are shifted out of the slums and into public housing which was arguably worse than the slums in many ways as it disrupted the established communities and displaced local businesses in order for property speculators (especially slumlords) and property developers to cash in on the gentrification of the inner city.

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            Thanks for the compliment!

            Your comment made me realise that I’m a massive dummy and, I think because my head has been completely immersed in other subjects, I entirely forgot about the Bonus Army events that occurred post-WWI in the US so there actually is direct evidence that the US government was completely and acutely aware of the potential social and political ramifications of veterans returning from the war and failing to find work and reintegrate into society can have. There’s a decent argument for the events surrounding the Bonus Army being a causative factor for the downfall of Hoover’s presidency too.

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    I live in a city. Today a dude tried to smash my window in and called me a f[slur].

    In 2022, a homeless dude stole my bag from my on Burnside.

    In 2020, multiple comrades got fucked up by the PPB.

    In 2016(?) a comrade of mine was stabbed on the lightrail.

    In 2015, a comrade was run over by a fascist (rip Lewis)

    In 2014 a comrade had their house ransacked by the pigs during a “wellness check.”

    Cities can be violent places. That said, I live in thr suburbs now and desperately miss Portland. Lake Oswego can suck my fucking asshole. I’ll take rest of it any day.

    And you know what? It’s more dangerous here. Everyone’s sedentary because they can’t walk anywhere. Everyone’s an alcoholic because they’re alone and miserable. Everyone’s broke because they have to pay for a car. This shit kills people.