Microsoft says Sony paid third parties to keep games off Xbox
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I think the only response to this is for us all to remember that businesses are not our friends.
Spencer can talk the talk about wanting games to be everywhere for anyone to play them but his words are meaningless if Microsoft published titles are getting caught up in PC and Xbox exclusivity arrangements.
Sony can say what it wants about the dangers of Microsoft making games like CoD exclusive, but to this day they’re doing work behind the scenes to keep major titles like FFXVI to themselves for as long as possible.
Business gonna business.
the hell do you mean PC exclusivity?
Why are you upset by this statement?
What PC exclusivity deals are you talking about?
At this point I’m more concerned with Windows exclusivity. Obviously there’s a financial incentive for Xbox to only release on Windows, but it’s hard to argue you’re not locked into a platform in a similar way.
What windows exclusivity deals are you talking about?
When games are developed for “PC” that means “Windows” unless otherwise noted. If something works on Linux or OSX that is usually specifically called out on the game.
The direction Windows is going with Win11 is concerning enough that a non-trivial number of people (myself included) are planning a move to Linux for desktop workstations once Win10 goes EOL next year. At that point I’d be locked out of games that only work on Windows in the same way I’m locked out from console exclusives. (And yes, I know it’s possible to emulate/Wine/dual boot - all of those options still require a license that I’m not interested in.)
Steam seems to be pushing Linux pretty hard, and it’s working for a lot of develoeprs, but there’s still a lot of AAA games not jumping on that bandwagon.
I’m out of the loop, what is windows doing as it relates to gaming in this case?
Steam is not going to push for Linux versions of games. lol.
Valve has Steam run Windows games on Linux under Proton, their version of WINE.
There are a couple of notable games that don’t run under it (Command:Modern Operations is a notable one that drives me nuts), but these days, pretty much everything works.
Now, i did mean exclusivity deals, because developers being contractually obligated to not develop for apple or linux, is very much different from developers not wanting to.
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I thought that the Mac could run Wine.
EDIT: Yeah, it can. It’s even in the title of the winehq.com main page.
Valve may not have people working on making it a seamless experience a la Linux, but I bet that one can get most of the same games working if one bangs on it.
I don’t entirely disagree with you but there’s a huge difference between a company making a game or two exclusive, versus a company outright buying an entire publisher and making all their games exclusive for the rest of time.
they are both anti consumer
When games take 2-5 years to make, it’s essentially the same as buying the company. ESPECIALLY when multiple canes in a row are released only for one platform.
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To me, this sounds like legal ass-covering to be used as a defense should Microsoft ever be investigated for attempting a sort of gaming monopoly. “No, we’re not buying out all the big developers so that we control the AAA playing field, we just don’t like exclusivity!”
I mean, if they don’t like exclusives, why go on to complain about how much they’re losing by putting their games on the competing console? Sure sounds like they’d rather not pay those fees at all, maybe… by making their new games exclusives? Hmmm…deleted by creator
I wish all consoles a very die
I don’t think you want that. The availability of consoles at different price points (all lower than a typical PC setup) lowers the barrier to entry for games and makes it viable for new games to be developed. Eliminating consoles would have severe implications to the industry.
Im not getting a console instead of a PC. I have a PC, that I use for many things other than games. If I had no PC, I’d still have my dirt cheap pre-paid phone, that’s still plenty capable of playing surprisingly demanding games. And I need this phone at a bare minimum, for work and emergencies, this is the lowest barrier to entry I can go for games. Every generation of every console is an unecessary, additional barrier to entry for whatever corner of gaming they’re gating off. PC isnt trying to gate off anything, PC price is purely selling the capability to play more demanding games, run more demanding software, and I can pay for whatever level of gaming thats right for me. And there is no “typical” PC setup, you’re thinking of the most up to date and modern PC’s that are overkill for anything. Graphics card from 7 years ago and you can play Elden Ring. I dont need or want an iPhone 14, and I dont need or want a 3080. Imagine every single game out or announced so far was available for PC, any game I would want to play, my PC could handle.
We’re not talking about you (1 consumer). You’re reading too much into this and you’re missing (or purposely ignoring) the general economics of purchasing a console versus a computer.
