“ohhhh, punk has been made too widely palatable and for everyone. REAL punks are like presbyterian minister mr rogers!” there are still hardcore bands out there! you can go see them if you want! i bet this person would listen to the ramones and go “umm, he wants to sniff glue? are we glorifying drug addiction now? this is SO not punk!”
there are people in the notes going “yeah! this is so true!”
i think this is part of a broader trend of people feeling to need to justify everything they enjoy, it can’t just be a show they remember fondly from when they were a kid, it needs to be punk
These chats are fun to jump in, but only because the people who listen to Sex Pistols and Queens of the Stone Age show up to shit on Folk Punk. My bad music is just better than your bad music.
But yeah, Mr. Rogers isn’t particularly punk. Not to say he’s a bad person, but that you can be a good person that fights for good things and not be “punk”.
I remember being at a festival somewhere at some time. It was a very broad-tent festival.
There were two main stages so acts could alternate - you’d have one stage where an act was playing while the other stage was being prepped by crew so the next act could jump on stage pretty much directly after the previous act, rather than having one main stage that has a lot of downtime between each act.
Björk was on one stage at the time. Love her stuff, really great and she was putting on a good show. But there was a big crowd who were there waiting to see Rage Against The Machine so they weren’t interested in Björk which is fine, whatever, not all music caters to every taste and especially not her stuff.
What really left me disgusted though was the Rage crowd booing Björk, not for singing Declare Independence while raising a Tibetan flag (lol), but because they didn’t like her music. Lots of people where flipping her off and shit too.
I was just like, man… y’all aren’t nearly as countercultural as you think you are. I could play half of that crowd some early stuff in Björk’s musical career that they’d probably find tolerable or agreeable, if not particularly likeable, because she started in punk and alternative music - which is pretty obvious if you look closely because she continued to draw on her punk and alternative influences as a solo artist. But also imagine being a big fan of countercultural music and being so openly hostile to music that pushes the boundaries.
“This music is very different and it’s not like what I hear on the radio. I don’t like it because it’s unusual and uncomfortable so I’m going to heckle this artist. I’m countercultural as heck, bro!!”
QotSA aren’t bad, they actually rule
QotSA falls into the Tool category for me: love the music, hate the fans lol
folk punk is good
not like, as music, but you know what i mean
Folk is Good. Punk is Good.
The two genres should generally not be mixed for the same reason 17th century Dramma per Musica and Dubstep should not be mixed.
i’d listen to that
folk punk is fun, my friend’s in a folk punk band and i got to see them do their thing and it was nice. no real experience with the genre outside that i’m afraid
okay but hear me out like mr rogers can be punk as a treat and ill fite you over this