I know the leftist in me is supposed to have sympathy for these people and get them to unionize. But only after I stop laughing and enjoying this moment. For years these fucks told the rest of us to “learn to code” and pretended like studying anything else at uni was a fucking waste of time.
GUESS WHAT FUCKERS. SO WAS CODING. Looks like we’ll be baristas together, only I’ll have three years of experience!!!
i dont really know what to do. i learned to code and right now i can’t get a job.
all of my experience is in programming, so i can’t really get into other industries. i can’t do most jobs bc i am disabled and cannot drive, so the fact all the current advice is “do a job that requires the ability to drive” really isn’t helpful. like even if i made enough money to move to the city i still couldn’t be a plumber.
if anyone has any advice on jobs that are remote i would appreciate it
finance firms, honestly. they’re immune to the underlying causes of this crash so they’re still hiring programmers.
ill look into it, thank you!
as a dumbass, recent graduate, and person who just started programming for a finance company as my first job - how/why are finance companies immune to the crash? it makes sense that they must be, because we do nothing and spend too much and honestly this company (on my level at least) should be fucking hemoraging money. its the most David Graeber bullshit jobs thing possible and yet we’re actively hiring, its wild
yep my job is also bullshit. my entire org should be like 10 people if you cut all the bloat. all I know is that my company provides liquidity on trades so they make money even when the economy is crashing.
See I’m currently going through a CS degree and I have no idea why a finance firm would need a programmer. And what kind of firms are we even talking, like banks and credit unions, or something considerably more arcane?
Finance firms use computer algorithms to make market predictions and automate their buying and selling. A lot of math majors go into finance.
sorry 1 day late but, isn’t it pretty ghoulish to work at a finance firm? You’d be advancing the ability for capitalist cutthroats to leave more people without jobs and without houses because of the inherent instability of the market, increasing leverage and putting more and more capital into extremely turbid waters that could wash away hundreds of thousands of people’s life savings overnight. I guess it’s not as bad as being a cop or working at the MIC, and Marxism != moralism, but am I wrong to see the people working as quants to be around the same as the petit bourgeoisie?
probably? it’s just the only place to get work right now. if/when the money spigot turns back on, I’ll go back to something with fewer ethical issues, but right now I just need work. plus my position is pretty bullshit so I’m pretty sure I’m just receiving money. like my job is so abstracted away from what actually earns them money and so focused idealistic platitudes that it’s hard to see how it improves their ability to do much of anything. but yeah, not claiming it’s ethically great.
That’s fair enough, sorry if my comment sounded judgemental.
no it’s all good, I went through this with my wife when I took the job. I was against it until I realized this. it also helped that their majority money maker is “providing liquidity to the market” - which means they’re doing arbitrage against other financebros and I give way less of a fuck.
a decade or so ago i was convinced we were no more than 30 years away from eliminating human drivers as a job, and now i’m working on inventing time travel just so i can go back and push me into a locker.
Half-joking here, but -
Become a consultant. This is essentially what you’ll do:
Find out what the client wants to hear.
Find out how much they want to pay to hear it.
Triple the price.
The key is to make them feel like they should be grateful to hear your words of wisdom. You just need to come across as wise and enlightened to the ways of the corporate world, no substance required. If your advice doesn’t pan out, blame your clients. They’ll keep coming back like the rubes that they are
i am WAY too autistic for that lmao
Current market is bad even for experienced developers, don’t expect it to recover fast. It first needs stop downsizing.
My first idea is to find someone who wants to (or has interest) to employ disabled person. In my country there are some incentives and people generally want to help out by hiring disabled.
Other option is casting a widder net. While tech companies are downsizing, economy is not bad. Try to find some close to IT job in non tech company where you can help them out and slowly grow.
I’ve been applying to IT jobs too but they’re also competitive as a lot of programmers are applying to them atm. But I’ll keep that up, thank you for your advice
what level of IT are you applying to? (for example helpdesk, technician, sysadmin, network engineer, etc.)
asking because I’m kind of thinking of switching from SWE to IT (I don’t like programming as much and arent as good at it as I expected when I started years ago) and I’m just curious whether even the lower levels roles like helpdesk are flooded
helpdesk and network engineer mostly but kinda just anything that pops up (which is most roles that have engineer in the title). i have experience in security engineering, which is close enough to a lot of IT stuff sorta kinda if you lie on your resume a little. helpdesk is the most flooded bc it has the least requirements i think, but i haven’t had any luck with the other ones either soooo i dunno
good luck finding a job that isn’t soul crushing comrade
You might be able to get a DevOps Engineer job.
I know, DevOps is a paradigm and not a position, but there are companies (with clueless HR departments) still hiring for those jobs. So if you want to leverage your knowledge and experience, you can do alright there. Following that, a better position might be Site Reliability Engineer.
Another position might be Application Support, if you don’t mind fixing software.
Been applying to DevOps, but I’ll be sure to look for the other ones you suggest as I hadn’t heard of those, thank you!