The idea that either answer is the correct one from a socialist perspective is completely missing the issue.
(*I’m not directing this at anyone specific here, just about these kind of debates in general)
You assume the worst about people or only think in your own terms because you live in a society that is not only ruthlessly individualist, but actively pits you against everyone else.
You don’t know and have some sort of mutual relationship with your neighbours because this hyper capitalist society has deliberately destroyed any sense of society and worked to dismantle communities.
The fact that you’re working exhausted working two jobs, or some people work day shifts, others nights, others early mornings is because you’re forced to by exploitative capital that has no interest in tailoring work to human need or paying a survivable wage.
If you’re only emotional interaction with someone next door is when their noise irritates you or their actions seem to impinge on your ease of life, of course that breeds hostility.
But what if housing and architecture was built to have communal and public social space, with private spaces being that and utilising things like soundproofing and proper insulation? Instead of trying to cram as many paper-thin ‘luxury’ shoeboxes into a space to maximise absurd profits without the whole thing (hopefully, usually) collapsing or burning down?
What if you could make a decent living without having to work 12hour shifts, or two jobs, or nights? Then you’d probably be at that party, ideally in some communal space. Perhaps the party could be at an appropriate venue like a club instead of the flat, that would be affordable, and still exist instead of being killed by capital building overpriced luxury shoeboxes next to it, using the nightlife as a selling tactic, and then getting the owners who bought the flats as investments to petition the council to shut down the venues.
And perhaps people could choose where they wanted to live, have options that suited different lifestyles and preferences, be able to move jobs or careers. Instead of having to live in these sprawling banlieues of almost unaffordable but barely functional worker housing in order to live within commuting distance of economies centred entirely around tiny enclaves of the ultra wealthy capital class.
That reality might not be tomorrow, but it’s possible.
Which neighbour is right isn’t even a struggle session. It’s just happily shit-flinging in service of capital’s ongoing divide and conquer strategy, while refusing to even look at the real issue. And doing it on Twitter as though it’s the most serious political question of our time only makes you, and the ideology you claim to prescribe to, look fucking idiotic.
Stop fucking arguing online and talk to your neighbour. Ideally start a tenant’s group or something, but honestly just introducing yourself and giving them some banana bread or some shit would be a million times more useful than yelling on Twitter.
Yes. I get wanting to get sleep to be able to have my labor squeezed from me like I’m a lemon the next morning, but maybe I want to blast music or blast w/e yt shit so I can listen and get stuff done around the house without putting on headphones and potentially giving myself a headache because they’re right up against my eardrums. We should all have the luxury of being able to make some sort of noise without upsetting another and that comes done to how our sardine cans are constructed and currently it’s a race to save every penny and charge thousands by renting or selling.
The idea that either answer is the correct one from a socialist perspective is completely missing the issue.
(*I’m not directing this at anyone specific here, just about these kind of debates in general)
You assume the worst about people or only think in your own terms because you live in a society that is not only ruthlessly individualist, but actively pits you against everyone else.
You don’t know and have some sort of mutual relationship with your neighbours because this hyper capitalist society has deliberately destroyed any sense of society and worked to dismantle communities.
The fact that you’re working exhausted working two jobs, or some people work day shifts, others nights, others early mornings is because you’re forced to by exploitative capital that has no interest in tailoring work to human need or paying a survivable wage.
If you’re only emotional interaction with someone next door is when their noise irritates you or their actions seem to impinge on your ease of life, of course that breeds hostility.
But what if housing and architecture was built to have communal and public social space, with private spaces being that and utilising things like soundproofing and proper insulation? Instead of trying to cram as many paper-thin ‘luxury’ shoeboxes into a space to maximise absurd profits without the whole thing (hopefully, usually) collapsing or burning down?
What if you could make a decent living without having to work 12hour shifts, or two jobs, or nights? Then you’d probably be at that party, ideally in some communal space. Perhaps the party could be at an appropriate venue like a club instead of the flat, that would be affordable, and still exist instead of being killed by capital building overpriced luxury shoeboxes next to it, using the nightlife as a selling tactic, and then getting the owners who bought the flats as investments to petition the council to shut down the venues.
And perhaps people could choose where they wanted to live, have options that suited different lifestyles and preferences, be able to move jobs or careers. Instead of having to live in these sprawling banlieues of almost unaffordable but barely functional worker housing in order to live within commuting distance of economies centred entirely around tiny enclaves of the ultra wealthy capital class.
That reality might not be tomorrow, but it’s possible.
Which neighbour is right isn’t even a struggle session. It’s just happily shit-flinging in service of capital’s ongoing divide and conquer strategy, while refusing to even look at the real issue. And doing it on Twitter as though it’s the most serious political question of our time only makes you, and the ideology you claim to prescribe to, look fucking idiotic.
Stop fucking arguing online and talk to your neighbour. Ideally start a tenant’s group or something, but honestly just introducing yourself and giving them some banana bread or some shit would be a million times more useful than yelling on Twitter.
GOOD post
Yes. I get wanting to get sleep to be able to have my labor squeezed from me like I’m a lemon the next morning, but maybe I want to blast music or blast w/e yt shit so I can listen and get stuff done around the house without putting on headphones and potentially giving myself a headache because they’re right up against my eardrums. We should all have the luxury of being able to make some sort of noise without upsetting another and that comes done to how our sardine cans are constructed and currently it’s a race to save every penny and charge thousands by renting or selling.