Out of curiosity before midnight, I’ve been lurking in incognito to see what subreddits appear and I saw WhitePeopleTwitter has a long post and is choosing to stay open.
WhitePeopleTwitter shows solidarity with the current protests on reddit against the fundamental changes to site architecture.
This moderated thread will remain open for everyone to comment in.
The comments that are in-favor of a real ‘blackout’ are being deleted.
I was even banned for commenting complicity. Interested to hear people’s takes. Anyone else face a similar story or think it’s justified?
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Eh… To each their own. Reddit isn’t going away. Many of us may not go back, but there are people who will stay. As long as there’s a thriving community over here it’s all good.
I hope they stay up because I really dont want those boring people here. That subreddit is funny for a full minute before you realize its just the same shit being over and over again. Its a groundhog day in that place.
And join the club. Im banned there and on a local sub. Only two places ive been banned in the 12 on Reddit.
Edit: before anyone thinks its the subjects I have a problem with, its not, I actually agree a lot with opinions on that sub, I just dislike their moderation and content format.
Short blurbs of captain obvious tweets arent what im looking for online. I would go to Twitter if I want to find the politics.
While I don’t share the same sentiment on the migration of users, you made a good point on the content. Most of the posts are just screenshots of tweets with a “funny” joke/caption as the title. There are even screenshots of replies of replies to a tweet. And they don’t even link back to the actual tweet!
WPT is nothing but the same two guys, discount Steven Spielberg and discount Marvel Thor
“discount Steven Spielberg”
Why do I think I immediately know who you are talking about, lol. I barely visit WPT either. The guy is just that prolific.
I feel like everyone needs to get together and protest by going dark. It’s not just about people using a third party because it makes them happy. There are real issues with how Reddit is handling itself and their lack of accessibility features is deplorable. I know they said they’re going to offer exemptions to apps that do accessibility but I have no hope they mean it.
With the trend that’s following, I also don’t think they’ll ever give exemptions to apps. It’s clear that the CEO is envious of 3rd party apps being sustainable and usability will surely gravitate more people towards said apps. And then the cycle continues.
I think it depends on the subreddit, honestly. For example, subreddits for mental health support (think r/depression, r/antidepressants, r/anxiety, etc.) should probably stay open since many would agree that supporting mental health is more important than protesting Reddit’s API changes.
Then there are subs like r/sysadmin. On the one hand, it’d make sense for them to shutdown since they’re a pretty tech-savvy group. On the other hand, since this sub is one of the first places sysadmins get information regarding security advisories, for example, it’s arguably also important enough to stay open.
Meme subs should probably go dark, though.
As a sysadmin, Google and ChatGPT tend to be good enough alternatives for now.
Yeah, at least when I’m trouble shooting something, I don’t find myself turning to reddit as much as stackoverflow, gpt, etc. In my experience /r/sysadmin was mostly just notifications, and people complaining about their boss/coworkers
It’s a difficult discussion. Because if they stay open, reddit will probably keep having leverage over everyone because they have an enormous library of previous discussions. If no one bothers to switch, it will never change.
Support communities made the right call, IMO, by staying open.
Mental health crisis doesn’t wait.
I dont think it should be forced on any community and furthermore it should not be on the shoulders of the moderators for those communities to uphold. People should be voting with their feet with or without a community going blackout/private. A LOT of people are ok with the changes to reddit and a lot of people dont even use a 3rd party app. If a community wants to stay up during the blackout because most of their users fall into those categories then they should be allowed to do so without being harassed.
Like with most things in life it’s a two way street and not as black and white as everyone makes it out to be.
Personally, im out. I’ve used sync pro/ultra for years and I HATE reddit’s official app. But my viewpoints dont represent the views of everyone else either and if those people are fine with it then they shouldnt be punished because of my views.
Thank you for this super measured response. I’ve plenty of reservations about reddit and am here for a reason, but end of the day I zoom out and think this is a pretty niche issue in a niche corner of the internet that’s not as morally evil/extreme as a lot of people make it out to be.
I think it’s totally appropriate for other people to have their own opinions, or even not care at all.
For example one of my most frequented subreddits, depressionregimens is still active. And I’m so glad they are. They are a really important resource when I (and lots of others) are feeling hopeless or even suicidal. I wouldn’t want someone who doesn’t know/care all this is happening, to go into that subreddit for help/info/support and then find it gone dark.
What’s the point of a discussion thread if you’re deleting all the discussion? Seems silly to even make one at that point.
In general, I can understand not wanting to join the protest, and I think I understand Reddit’s reasons for their changes (though they’ve done a shit job of communicating them).
In this specific case of r/WhitePeopleTwitter, it looks like the mods are just being dicks.
it looks like the mods are just being dicks.
Business as usual, apparently. I once received an automod notice that I didn’t have enough karma points to post a link. (At that point I had accumulated many karma points, but not in that sub.)
So I messaged the mods and asked what the minimum was, since it wasn’t stated anywhere in the rules. The reply? “Sorry, we can’t disclose that.” Wait, what?
I mean they’re not required to and maybe they are fine with the changes.
I think we’re seeing the beginnings of what I call the “Reddit Schism”. Once the cats started appearing, it has become official. We are no longer redditors.
Our fruits have become soured, and have soured us, with the latest news from Reddit. Let us, the “lemons” move onto the welcoming arms of the federation!
This was very poetic, yet cult-like. 😂
What should our title be now? Lemmyors?
Yes, join the cult! Just kidding.
I kind of like the term “Lemons” because the general mood seems to be sour towards reddit from the recent migrants. However, even though lemons are sour, they add a lot of flavor and are a fundamental part of a lot of recipes
How about Lemmings?
How about the general term- Fedizens, that has been around for some time?
Aren’t lemming, fedizens, and reddit r/efugees referring to different specific groups of people?
It might be best to go with something that has more appeal. That’s part of why I went with lemon because it seemed catchy. Lemmings, unfortunately, has historically had a negative meaning. Fedizens is okay, but citizen might be better as it isn’t a portmaneau? (new word combined from other words)
I remember on the Save 3rd Party Apps sub there was a point about not criticising those not partaking. I suppose now I’m off there I can call the mods of the other subs scabs. I know subs like r/NBA kept it up due to where they are in the season but, like, can’t you see this is bigger than that? If the blackout doesn’t succeed, Redditors will forever be at the mercy of their corpo overlords.
I think there are two different kinds of blackouts here. Most subreddits have opted to fully blackout by going private, but some have instead decided to not take the subreddit private but instead prevent new submissions and instead have a stickied submission explaining why no new comments/submissions can be made.
Larger subreddits might prefer the latter because it allows them to have one submission rise up through Reddit’s /r/all or /r/popular, increasing visibility. Going fully dark by going private doesn’t easily elucidate the reason as well as having a single submission doing so, and does a decent job when a number of the exact same submission flood the front page and nothing else from those communities.
This isn’t to condone what a particular subreddit is doing or not doing but mostly opining about some of the ways different communities are participating
There’s some that probably should stay up - I keep reptiles and most of the subs dedicated to that hobby that I’m in are still up as they contain so much vital information for new and experienced handlers alike and it is possible that animals could come to harm if that advice isn’t easily/readily available. In the absence of a better option, I agree that subs in that nature get a pass in staying up.
I don’t really see why some meme/shitposting subs aren’t joining though. you can live without screenshots of Twitter libs being Twitter libs for 48 hours.
Ukpolitics stayed up for some reason, they didn’t even ask the users, very democratic.
Wasn’t UKPolitics very Tory? Probably don’t like the anti-corporate bent of the Blackout.
I wouldn’t say they were very Tory - people would very openly bash the conservative party there, but I would say, politically speaking, more center / right (i.e. more of a Telegraph reader-base rather than say, The Guardian).
With that said, I do remember in the past they definitely had a Tory-bias but I believe (perhaps due to the utter incompetence of the conservative party in recent years) that has shifted somewhat.
If it is a community-driven decision, up to them of course - some small communities I used to follow that are not very much connected to the rest of reddit itself have no mentions about the blackout, and I suspect most of their members are not even aware of it. If it is the moderators deciding themselves, that is a different issue - it is very interesting to follow the list of open and private subreddits in reddark!
