liberals the moment they meet people who actually support the cause they’re performatively claiming to support: pigmask-off

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    “online leftists made me a right winger”

    ok, so you never had any concrete values or morals to begin with.

    I spent quite a while supporting Palestinians, trying to help, and challenging others to engage as well. Not solely these last several months, but since 2021 when I first learned of this topic.

    2021? this would only be acceptable if this moron is in high school.

    Edit: ok actually they made a post to Stanfords reddit about being a freshman, so i guess that is accurate. But they’re going to Stanford so that will just make him into a LIB and/or fedposting anyways

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    “I used to support the resistance until I found out the resistance wasn’t non-violent and didn’t support the crackerverse” that mf ain’t iranian. bet my left eye on it.

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      yeonmi-park

      All the stuff I learned about Iran I got from my fedposting parents. Which is why they had to escape. No I didn’t hear about this so called coup started by the US in the 1953.

      They never talked about that so it’s a big lie! Maybe (/s)


      Serious - I married an Indonesian who was raised to love America. His father was definitely around during the 1965 genocide. His father was also a school principal. They never said a word to their children about it. I had to teach him, and it’s a subject so gruesome he doesn’t want to think of the implications.

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    These people aren’t feds. They’re typical NATO leftists and I’ve unfortunately come across this type irl more than I have ever wanted to. Majority of them were either baby leftists still in undergrad or Anarchists. Maybe not as extreme as these people but mention any AES and you’d get an earful about how evil they are.

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      I’m honestly at the point now whenever I meet someone in the west who calls themselves a socialist or anarchist I just default assume they’re a NATO stan who fans free college.

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            It’ll quickly sort out the possible allies or collaborators from mealymouthed worms.

            Sure there’s a time and place to put on different hats and keep your ideology to yourself when coalition building a popular front, but United fronts generally require you to be up front with what you stand for when talking about what goals you want to collectively work for.

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              yup, plus you get to explain to well-meaning but misinformed types who think, for example, that surplus value refers to the reserve army of labor (and therefore casts them aside)

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    since 2021 when I first learned of this topic.

    Lol

    Yeah, they’ll maybe make 1-2 tweets saying forced hijab is bad, but then they’ll make 15 whataboutist posts comparing Iran to France and promoting key pro-regime policies.

    Because what has this got to do with the war? Fucking priorities.

    I feel so stuck because I obviously know what Israel is doing in Gaza right now is not ok.

    That’s a very mild way of framing 70+ years of genocide against Palestinians by the Israeli ethnostate

    But I cannot continue to associate myself with spaces that support my people’s oppression whilst claiming to stand “on the right side of history.”

    This smells of fed. “You’re too extreme and its scaring people away from the left.” is straight up Obama double-speak.

    The hyper fixation on Israel/Palestine is bizarre. And the reaction to groups such as the Houthis and complete lack of reaction to anything going on in places like Myanmar shows that a lot of the support for Palestine isn’t because they care about civilian deaths, or Muslims facing persecution. It more about “West bad” and antisemitism than actually caring about the Palestinian people.

    What 0 understanding of global politics and history does to a motherfucker. picard Yes, the West is bad, very bad, one might even say the future of humanity depends on the West losing its grip on the globe so that leftist groups are no longer suppressed with constant coups and color revolutions funded by the west. Those theocrats forcing women in hajib? Those were originally far-right mujahideen funded by the CIA. The biggest hurdle to freedom in the Middle East is Western meddling, which was the entire purpose of the West stealing Palestinian land and founding Israel.

    Lmao they use “CIA agent” as a flair. Really cool to downplay all the horrors committed by the CIA with your “jokey” flair guys.

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    Reddit made it clear where they stand when they left coontown, fatpeoplehate, jailbait, and others on the site for years before finally removing them around the same time as OG hexbear birthplace, for the crime of what? Having a communism? Enjoying a succulent Chinese communism?

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      It used to be that every time Reddit removed a community it was strictly because it got them bad press. The original founders were all about free speech absolutism except when it got them in hot water on CNN.

      Then the founders left and got replaced by CEO-brained CIA alumni, who remove subreddits for basically the same reason but more proactively in order to try and keep the site’s value high for the elusive IPO that’s always on the horizon.

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    I know its tankiejerk so they were never gonna be a comrade but this is like the opposite of the type of squishy leftists or western anarchists that I hold out hope for.

    Instead of mostly having good instincts and being willing to work with whoever else is putting in the work even if they don’t necessarily have a nuanced take on stalin or trust in state structures, these people create their politics entirely in reaction to a boogeyman and don’t put in any work

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    /r/tankiejerk, where state department tankies go to jerk off about sending their tanks to Gaza (they will be blown up by a guerilla fighter five meters away, and cost fifty quintillion to replace)

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    We almost got rid of this sub like three fucking times just because of inter-subreddit drama it was causing. They have been warned a number of times by admins.

    I don’t think it would take much for a dedicated group to actively work to get it banned. You’d just have to cause enormous struggle sessions, conflicts with modteam, and conflicts with other subreddits. The kind of shit that would drag admins into being involved. The basic way the reddit admins operate is that they ban anything if it takes up too much of their time.

    I want it gone so fucking badly.

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        You’d have to find the stuff that they’re doing grey-area on, or that they’ve gotten lazy about, or that their mods actively don’t want to remove so they let them sit for hours and hours before acting (mods pretend not to have seen stuff all the time when they actually have). A lot of modteams don’t actually wanna moderate the stuff they’re being forced to moderate due to admins.

        After that it’s figuring out how to pick a fight with elsewhere and convince their modteams to write complaints. It has the inherent risk of causing trouble with another socialist sub but honestly if one sub dies to take that shit hole with it then it’d be worth it because they’d never let a copy be made whereas socialist subs will always reappear. “jerk” would be burned for them and anti-tankie spaces too probably.

        In the wake of it being destroyed you’d ideally make a bunch of “copy” subs like “anti-tankie-aktion” and shit. Then report these copy subs so they’re banned as attempts to remake it. This would poison all future attempts at such a space because admins would then regard all antitankie spaces as attempts to resurrect the original.

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      This libness could probably be diffused with better education on the Vietnam war. As a kid I was indoctrinated into loving the army and such as many Americans are, but I learned on my own how the US lied to get into Vietnam, and about all the regime changes and massacres etc, and from that age around 7 or 8 I viewed everything from that lens, that the US military was actually just a greedy monster.

      I think it’s hard for people to accept that there really are people within the US’ power structure so blood-thirsty that they will gladly allow thousands of Palestinians or whoever to be killed for profit or whatever delusion they have. It’s so far from a normal rational way of behaving.