• underisk@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    You say there’s no zero point but at least theoretically there must be if one source can be “less biased” than another. Even if in reality it can only asymptotically approach zero there still must be a zero to approach.

    I agree that it’s important to recognize one cannot be unbiased which is why it’s useful to examine one’s biases and challenge them through analysis of media that may not confirm those biases. You’re telling me that you’re not trying to dismiss this source due to bias but also that you don’t want to engage in a good faith analysis of the claims within. Rather than trying to debunk the claims you’re simply taking a shortcut to arrive at a conclusion that confirms your own biases.

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      1 year ago

      You say there’s no zero point but at least theoretically there must be if one source can be “less biased” than another. Even if in reality it can only asymptotically approach zero there still must be a zero to approach.

      you’re welcome to that opinion. I’ve explained my position.

      I agree that it’s important to recognize one cannot be unbiased which is why it’s useful to examine one’s biases and challenge them through analysis of media that may not confirm those biases. You’re telling me that you’re not trying to dismiss this source due to bias but also that you don’t want to engage in a good faith analysis of the claims within.

      that’s not what I said.

      Rather than trying to debunk the claims you’re simply taking a shortcut to arrive at a conclusion that confirms your own biases.

      incorrect. I urge you to re-read what I’ve said rather than see what you wish to. I find it curious that you accuse me of applying my biases when you have, in fact, twisted my words so badly to only hear what you wish and conclude something quite different that what I’ve expressed.

      and, perhaps more sophisticated than most, in retrospect, this was a clear attempt at

      Sealioning

      Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity (“I’m just trying to have a debate”), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter. It may take the form of “incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate”, and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings. The term originated with a 2014 strip of the webcomic Wondermark by David Malki, which The Independent called “the most apt description of Twitter you’ll ever see”.

      have a good night.

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        1 year ago

        My friend, if two values can be quantitatively compared then it’s not an opinion that there is exists a theoretical minimum of that value.

        How convenient that you can find a wikipedia article to link that lets you dismiss any and all attempts at discussion without having to engage earnestly with a another person. Sorry for taking an interest in understanding and discussing your worldview. Good night.

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          we’re not friends. and if you don’t like the consequences of your bad behavior, then you should stop behaving in such reprehensible manner.

          “DARVO is an acronym used to describe a common strategy of abusers. The abuser will: Deny the abuse ever took place, then Attack the victim for attempting to hold the abuser accountable; then they will lie and claim that they, the abuser, are the real victim in the situation, thus Reversing the Victim and Offender.”

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              facing the consequences of your actions is not a state of victimhood.

              “DARVO is an acronym used to describe a common strategy of abusers. The abuser will: Deny the abuse ever took place, then Attack the victim for attempting to hold the abuser accountable; then they will lie and claim that they, the abuser, are the real victim in the situation, thus Reversing the Victim and Offender.”

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                1 year ago

                If I keep replying will you keep quoting this at me while your friend/alt account upvotes you and downvotes me immediately?

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                  If I keep replying will you keep quoting this at me while your friend/alt account upvotes you and downvotes me immediately?

                  so, the only way someone could agree with me or disagree with you is through conspiracy? psychologists would call that paranoid delusion.

                  facing the consequences of your actions is not a state of victimhood.

                  “DARVO is an acronym used to describe a common strategy of abusers. The abuser will: Deny the abuse ever took place, then Attack the victim for attempting to hold the abuser accountable; then they will lie and claim that they, the abuser, are the real victim in the situation, thus Reversing the Victim and Offender.”

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                    No, but we’re like 20 comments deep behind several “view more comments” links. I really doubt anyone is following our little pissing match so closely as to vote immediately after we post. I won’t deny it’s a remote possibility though, because I can recognize my own biases.