I think paying into a system that most people agree is broken by being profit-focused as a way of fixing that system is dumb, as do most people.
That would be like boycotting a company by buying more of their product.
We should fund healthcare the same way the countries Rob mentioned funds their healthcare, and they don’t do it by simply diverting resources intended for Ukraine. They do it with a different healthcare system entirely.
It’s not a secret to any of us that healthcare and insurance companies artificially inflate the cost of treatment to increase their profits. Without all that overhead healthcare becomes a LOT cheaper.
That’s because it’s my stance. I clarified for you because you didn’t seem to fully get it with my last post.
Or do you mean the profit-focused thing? Because that’s literally what privatized healthcare is. My citation is gestures wildly at the entire system but if you want specifics just ask and I will provide.
You said most people. That’s is something that needs a citation. Otherwise it should read your opinion which is meaningless since it doesn’t back data.
You isn’t give a citation. I’ve noticed in lemmy people don’t understand what a citations is or how to give one.
A citation is not your opinion of something but an actual documented source that says that with a link and the most relevant section pasted in the body.
Now if it’s general topic, the just the link is fine.
This is a study on consumer shopping behaviors for health insurance, including reasons why a consumer is or isn’t happy with an insurance plan, what they value and what determines their enrollment.
What trips most people up and leaves them unsatisfied with their coverage are the costs for necessary coverage and the actual coverage they end up with.
If you disagree can you cite a source for me that says the majority of people enjoy overpaying for healthcare coverage compared to other country populations, that oftentimes refuses to pay out?
The study has nothing to do with your claim. I should explain citations should be relevant to the topic. Just citing random things doesn’t validate a discussion.
That’s your opinion, I think this is a perfectly valid representation of how a US citizen purchases a healthcare plan and their feelings on that process and their coverage.
We can agree to disagree here.
Now can you show me a citation that shows the inverse?
It isn’t my job to prove your claim. The cite doesn’t say what you claim. I have yet to see a poll to say profit is the reason people are unhappy with the system. Cost is an issue but that isn’t tied just around profit. Our staff is payed much higher than the rest of the world and we are more litigious as well.
I’m not asking you to prove my claim. I’m asking you to show me contrary evidence. I provided some and you didn’t like it, so show me what good evidence looks like.
By “staff” you mean executives, right? How else do they get the money for their salary and bonuses?
How does a healthcare company CEO make over $20M a year when they’re not exploiting their customers by artificially inflating costs? Couldn’t that $20M have helped subsidize the cost of their care provided instead?
Pharmaceutical companies do the same thing. When their motivation is profit it becomes their focus. Their product is secondary. That’s a problem when it’s healthcare or education, which are both qualitative things that benefit society to have.
I think paying into a system that most people agree is broken by being profit-focused as a way of fixing that system is dumb, as do most people.
That would be like boycotting a company by buying more of their product.
We should fund healthcare the same way the countries Rob mentioned funds their healthcare, and they don’t do it by simply diverting resources intended for Ukraine. They do it with a different healthcare system entirely.
It’s not a secret to any of us that healthcare and insurance companies artificially inflate the cost of treatment to increase their profits. Without all that overhead healthcare becomes a LOT cheaper.
That’s because it’s my stance. I clarified for you because you didn’t seem to fully get it with my last post.
Or do you mean the profit-focused thing? Because that’s literally what privatized healthcare is. My citation is gestures wildly at the entire system but if you want specifics just ask and I will provide.
You said most people. That’s is something that needs a citation. Otherwise it should read your opinion which is meaningless since it doesn’t back data.
You isn’t give a citation. I’ve noticed in lemmy people don’t understand what a citations is or how to give one.
A citation is not your opinion of something but an actual documented source that says that with a link and the most relevant section pasted in the body.
Now if it’s general topic, the just the link is fine.
Here you go: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7434061/
This is a study on consumer shopping behaviors for health insurance, including reasons why a consumer is or isn’t happy with an insurance plan, what they value and what determines their enrollment.
What trips most people up and leaves them unsatisfied with their coverage are the costs for necessary coverage and the actual coverage they end up with.
If you disagree can you cite a source for me that says the majority of people enjoy overpaying for healthcare coverage compared to other country populations, that oftentimes refuses to pay out?
The study has nothing to do with your claim. I should explain citations should be relevant to the topic. Just citing random things doesn’t validate a discussion.
That’s your opinion, I think this is a perfectly valid representation of how a US citizen purchases a healthcare plan and their feelings on that process and their coverage.
We can agree to disagree here.
Now can you show me a citation that shows the inverse?
It isn’t my job to prove your claim. The cite doesn’t say what you claim. I have yet to see a poll to say profit is the reason people are unhappy with the system. Cost is an issue but that isn’t tied just around profit. Our staff is payed much higher than the rest of the world and we are more litigious as well.
I’m not asking you to prove my claim. I’m asking you to show me contrary evidence. I provided some and you didn’t like it, so show me what good evidence looks like.
By “staff” you mean executives, right? How else do they get the money for their salary and bonuses?
https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/us/guides/which-health-insurance-ceos-get-the-highest-pay-467513.aspx#:~:text=Joseph Zubretsky%2C Molina Healthcare&text=Zubretsky tops the list%2C receiving,compensation%2C reaching almost %2415 million.
How does a healthcare company CEO make over $20M a year when they’re not exploiting their customers by artificially inflating costs? Couldn’t that $20M have helped subsidize the cost of their care provided instead?
Pharmaceutical companies do the same thing. When their motivation is profit it becomes their focus. Their product is secondary. That’s a problem when it’s healthcare or education, which are both qualitative things that benefit society to have.