On this topic, I am optimistic on how generative AI has made us collectively more negative to shallow content. Be it lazy copypaste journalism with some phrases swapped or school testing schemes based on regurgitating facts rather than understanding, none of which have value and both of which displace work with value, we have basically tolerated it.
But now that a rock with some current run through it can pass those tests and do that journalism, we are demanding better.
Fingers crossed it causes some positive in the mess.
The problem is that because the production costs of the crap content will now be near zero, it will always be profitable to create as long as there is just a fraction of the consumerbase falling for it.
It is never going to stop on its own because of lack of demand, it is going to continue and something drastic will have to be thought up to create an internet where everything isn’t buried in AI generated crap.
Honestly I think AI will actually make a really cool tool for a lot of artists. They’ll be able to do things like focus on the core subject of the image and tell the ai to just put some grass over in that corner there and maybe a butterfly or something… nah a blue butterfly specifically so it goes with the models eyes. Or to help fill in minor NPCs in a video game or make the textures for the inside of openable crates. The part the big execs don’t understand is that you still need a human with a genuine and interesting idea. The AI is just the polish, and a polished turd is still a turd. And there will of course still be some kind of demand for media with the kind of attention to detail where every flower petal is hand painted. People still buy bespoke handbags and jeans and teapots and- literally anything.
To me the important part is making sure it’s a public resource. The cat is out of the bag and they’re not gonna stop. To me the most important thing now is making sure it’s something everyone has access to. A coworker also recently pointed out that making sure everyone has access to it means everyone knowing how it works. A lot of people are acting like this is some horrible evil thing to exist, but I would like to present the idea that it could be just as horrible and evil AND completely within the knowledge and under the control of the bourgeoisie.
One of the better tooling ideas I’ve heard is from a friend of mine who does board game development. One of the problems is going back and forth with the artist over what’s wanted. With an AI image generator, he can get something along the right lines, and then take it to the artist as an example.
The problem is that quantity is no longer going to be a problem, it can be created for virtually nothing, so basically just a tiny profit will be enough to warrant it in the outlook of those responsible for it.
Now endless shallow spam, which slightly resembles something worthwhile, can be generated in an instant, because it will generate a meagre profit. It is already happening on the book market for example. Amazon is flooded with AI generated books, and proper authors are simply buried in the mountains of generated spam which is at best nonsensical but at worst genuinely misinforming.
Perhaps consumers will become more discerning in the future (although to be honest not much in the present suggests that will be the outcome), but it will never remove the increasing mountains of spam, because it will be produced for as long as just a fraction of people buy into it. And this will be applicable to everything on the internet. If we thought commercialisation and spam was bad now, we have seen nothing at all yet.
So even with proper discernment, it will take a lot of time and effort just to locate something earnest and worthwhile in the generated spam.
On this topic, I am optimistic on how generative AI has made us collectively more negative to shallow content. Be it lazy copypaste journalism with some phrases swapped or school testing schemes based on regurgitating facts rather than understanding, none of which have value and both of which displace work with value, we have basically tolerated it.
But now that a rock with some current run through it can pass those tests and do that journalism, we are demanding better.
Fingers crossed it causes some positive in the mess.
We have to deal now with periods of crap content, until people will fatigue and became aware of the shitty ai things made for quick bucks.
The problem is that because the production costs of the crap content will now be near zero, it will always be profitable to create as long as there is just a fraction of the consumerbase falling for it.
It is never going to stop on its own because of lack of demand, it is going to continue and something drastic will have to be thought up to create an internet where everything isn’t buried in AI generated crap.
Exactly
I hope it has same effect than mechanization for menial work. It raises the bar for what people expect other people to do.
Long term it helps reach a utopia, short term there will be a lot of people impacted by it.
Honestly I think AI will actually make a really cool tool for a lot of artists. They’ll be able to do things like focus on the core subject of the image and tell the ai to just put some grass over in that corner there and maybe a butterfly or something… nah a blue butterfly specifically so it goes with the models eyes. Or to help fill in minor NPCs in a video game or make the textures for the inside of openable crates. The part the big execs don’t understand is that you still need a human with a genuine and interesting idea. The AI is just the polish, and a polished turd is still a turd. And there will of course still be some kind of demand for media with the kind of attention to detail where every flower petal is hand painted. People still buy bespoke
handbags and jeans and teapots and-literally anything.To me the important part is making sure it’s a public resource. The cat is out of the bag and they’re not gonna stop. To me the most important thing now is making sure it’s something everyone has access to. A coworker also recently pointed out that making sure everyone has access to it means everyone knowing how it works. A lot of people are acting like this is some horrible evil thing to exist, but I would like to present the idea that it could be just as horrible and evil AND completely within the knowledge and under the control of the bourgeoisie.
One of the better tooling ideas I’ve heard is from a friend of mine who does board game development. One of the problems is going back and forth with the artist over what’s wanted. With an AI image generator, he can get something along the right lines, and then take it to the artist as an example.
Yeah, I just noticed that with generated music getting better I feel more demanding towards the music I listen to.
I recently realized that I have some basic bitch music tastes and could likely listen to ai generated instrumentals for a long time
They fit some use-cases pretty well, like background music in stores or for doing something, I think
The problem is that quantity is no longer going to be a problem, it can be created for virtually nothing, so basically just a tiny profit will be enough to warrant it in the outlook of those responsible for it.
Now endless shallow spam, which slightly resembles something worthwhile, can be generated in an instant, because it will generate a meagre profit. It is already happening on the book market for example. Amazon is flooded with AI generated books, and proper authors are simply buried in the mountains of generated spam which is at best nonsensical but at worst genuinely misinforming.
Perhaps consumers will become more discerning in the future (although to be honest not much in the present suggests that will be the outcome), but it will never remove the increasing mountains of spam, because it will be produced for as long as just a fraction of people buy into it. And this will be applicable to everything on the internet. If we thought commercialisation and spam was bad now, we have seen nothing at all yet.
So even with proper discernment, it will take a lot of time and effort just to locate something earnest and worthwhile in the generated spam.
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