The new ‘countryside sounds and smells law’ aims to give more protection to existing farms from newly arrived residents in the area.

  • mateomaui
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    6 months ago

    If you can’t breathe here then you should move.

    Not a problem now, because the burning has stopped, dumbass.

    You talk about how something was the biggest local news item, yet apparently totally ignored the years of complaints from locals and long-term residents suffering from various forms of smoke-induced asthma, emphysema, etc… which is why it’s ridiculous that people here are still giving older folks wearing masks a hard time, because many of them were wearing masks during burning seasons to help with the effects before the pandemic even happened.

    Now we have even more dust and fires since there’s no irrigation system to control it.

    LOL, no, that’s not true either. The main places we had uncontrolled fires didn’t have irrigation to begin with, with exception of the one downhill from Pukalani headed towards Maui Meadows (edit: actually, no, the area approaching Maui Meadows never had irrigation either), but please, do point out where the irrigation systems were in Kula, Olinda, and over on the west side so I can go see where that used to be. All the other fires we’ve had recently are the pedestrian variety probably caused by cigarettes being thrown out like usual, and they were all quickly brought under control. I get the alerts for emergencies and all clears just like everyone else here.

    This nonsense may go over with people who don’t live here, but I do live here.

    And don’t put “maui” in your screen name or emails; that’s carpetbagger shit right there.

    No, you can get over it. If it’s a problem for you, that’s just too bad.

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      6 months ago

      Thank you for being the perfect demonstration of the problem. All the complaints you mentioned came from new residents in new housing projects. VOG- from volcanoes- has been a respiratory issue here when the trades died more than cane burns have. Havent seen much of that recently.

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        6 months ago

        Wrong again, not sure what part of “Paia” and “Wailuku” you don’t understand, but neither of those places has had new housing projects.

        Also not sure what part of “locals” you don’t understand, but not many of them are in new housing projects either.

        I lived for several years at the end of West Vineyard St in Wailuku, overlooking Happy Valley, in the opposite direction from Kihei, and we got smoked out by cane burning on a regular basis. That’s not even remotely a new housing project area.

        edit: seriously tho, are you actually trying to blame smoke complaints on vog? That’s the dumbest thing you’ve said yet. It’s a completely different problem with milder effects. People think they’re having allergies and going for the antihistamines, they aren’t waking up with their eyes and lungs burning.

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          6 months ago

          We are never, ever going to agree on this. You’re being straight up melodramatic. You were not getting smoked out on a regular basic because that is neither how field rotation nor trades winds work.

          But be happy! You whined and bitched like little girls and shut down a factory, destroyed a power plant (TWO of them!), and put lots of people out of work and some out of lifelong careers. Mazel tov!

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            6 months ago

            Dude who says all of Maui is brown, going to die, and has no primary attractions left says someone else is being melodramatic. LOL

            And clearly you don’t know as much about the winds as you claim. Feel free to go door to door over there and ask people about it.

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              6 months ago

              I said the central valley…which, btw, is now returned to being a brown, dead desert. Just like I said.

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                6 months ago

                Now Maui is a brown, unattractive desert with uncontrolled wildfires instead of controlled fires with irrigation sprinklers.

                Maui is going to die.

                I already quoted you before but there it is again, in all its melodramatic wrongness.

                edit: not to mention that part of the smoke pollution was them burning the existing pipe along with the cane, because it was basically impossible to harvest around it, and it wasn’t harvested until after it was burned.

                And, again, the uncontrolled wildfires have been in places where there was no irrigation to begin with.

                edit2: It’s still baffling that last part has to be explained for you. There have been no uncontrolled fires in any areas that previously had irrigation, because all the cane field road infrastructure is still there, so the fire dept can drive right to it. Meanwhile, the uncontrolled fires were uncontrolled because there were no easy access points, and there were no previous irrigation sources located there. It’s really weird, or just disingenuous, that you’re trying to conflate these two completely separate things.

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                  6 months ago

                  And yet, there it is: an ugly, brown, dead central valley.

                  You will never, ever win this one. Sit down. And stop trying to make your point with the August fire and not the dozens and dozens before then. The area around Hansen road is still charred.

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                    I don’t need to win anything with you. As long as other readers come along and understand that you’re full of shit regarding the overall state of Maui, or at the very least extremely confused about the facts here, that’s enough. You’re probably one of those who think the Olinda and Kula fires were started by a laser, and there’s absolutely no talking sense into those people.

                    edit: You’re the one who’s complaining about controlled vs uncontrolled fires related to irrigation or lack thereof. The only “uncontrolled” ones were in August, all the other previous ones since the cane has been gone were handled quickly, because again, easy access. So apparently your definition of uncontrolled is loose at best. You act like there were no random fires when the cane was still growing, which is absolutely false. Plenty of unscheduled burns by vandals in the fields, which weren’t easy for the fire dept to put out.